Git Developers Discuss The Possibility Of Beginning To Use Rust Code

[Weasel]

Who would've guessed that successful things tend to become popular

Yeah like CUDA, eh?

Works both ways buffoons.

[Weasel]

And here is a really interesting, yet little talked about aspect:


This is how I think Rust will displace C in a decade or two: there will simply be no more programmers that will spend the time needed to learn C, when they can do 99% the same things in Rust.

Dark days ahead of new breed of bad "programmers" unfortunately.

[oleid]

Not really. There was something merged that will compile Rust... but it doesn't have a borrow checked. Thus, it will happily compile things that rustc would reject.

No, I mean to the rustc repository. Not talking about gccrs

[mathletic]

Not really. There was something merged that will compile Rust... but it doesn't have a borrow checked. Thus, it will happily compile things that rustc would reject.

Does not matter. You have the checks from rustc and every commit will be compiled by the CI with rustc. GCC is used to reach all that platforms not supported by LLVM.

[reba]

Dark days ahead of new breed of bad "programmers" unfortunately.

Yeah, TDD sucks. We've seen with the latest Intels graphics patch how good all programmers are.
Why have seat belts, stability control or even doors?
We're all 100% pros here, every day, every minute, in every situation.
Yeah, talk like a true buffoon to me, you know you want to.

Oh, wait, I have another new word for you: hubris.

[MarkG]

@Michael: in addition to the "Like" button, can we please have an "Unlike" (or don't like, or disagree) button for others' comments? This isn't Facebook.

Personally, if the kernel is going to get infected with another language, I'd strongly prefer Rust over C++. Without reading 100% of the code, you just can't read a page of C++ code and be absolutely sure what it means. Not so with Rust, and that's important for kernels.

[oleid]

Dark days ahead of new breed of bad "programmers" unfortunately.

Yes, today's programmers are infallible. That's why we don't have any segmentation failures or security issues.

[bug77]

Dark days ahead of new breed of bad "programmers" unfortunately.

Bad programmers outnumber good ones 10:1, easily. What you have them use: C or Rust?

C comes from an era when the compiler (and CPUs) could only do so much. Today, they can do much more, including offering crutches for some of the more dangerous pitfalls. Of course, Rust has still to prove itself in some ways. But wherever it has been tried so far, it has done so pretty well. So, without taking anything away from C, why do you think it's a good idea to dismiss Rust?

[BreachScrambler]

I once attempted to multithread the SDL rendering of Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead. It's forbidden to add such a feature because everybody hates to maintain a multithreaded C++ codebase but goddamnit I want to zoom-out the screen on my 6 year old phone.

Sure was painful to do and it ended up slower than the single-threaded version because I peppered everything with mutexes - no easy way to tell if a class is thread safe or not.

If it were instead written in Rust, we'd have access to the Sync/Send traits and no one will complain about the maintenance burden because the compiler itself will help with the checking.

[darkonix]

That's what I thought. Choosing Ada would be better as it is supported in gcc

How many Ada programmers are out there? I guess a lot less than Rust programmers these days.