Red Hat Evaluating x86-64-v3 Requirement For RHEL 10

[geerge]

Someone is overstretching facts here. If x86-64-v3 is AVX2 then according to Wikipedia the first AMD CPU is Excavator from June 2015.
8.5 years is not a decade. Pretty short period for obsoleting still well performing HW.

If someone is actively using pre-excavator AMD CPU's they are burning money on electricity. It's like someone choosing to run modern intel

[Jorgp2]

I cannot believe anyone uses RHEL with Atoms or such old HW that it doesn't support AVX2, so RHEL may as well go with it.

IIRC Intels latest Atom server CPUs don't support it.

[coder]

I cannot believe anyone uses RHEL with Atoms or such old HW that it doesn't support AVX2, so RHEL may as well go with it.

Plenty of Intel's embedded server CPUs use those E-cores.

Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't exist or aren't important. Try educating yourself:

https://www.servethehome.com/intel-e-core-evolution-2013-2023/

[Vistaus]

If someone is actively using pre-excavator AMD CPU's they are burning money on electricity. It's like someone choosing to run modern intel

That too, plus it's more than 8.5 years when this requirement lands (if it lands, of course), as we're talking about RHEL 10 in 2025. By that time, we're talking about 10.5 years, which is starting to get pretty old for a CPU anyway, not to mention the fact that most RHEL users will not upgrade immediately, so more like 11-11.5 years.

[skeevy420]

On the contrary, certainly there are many office grade computers with Celerons and Pentiums. Particularly those mini and all in one types. Try to check the next time you sit to talk with any manager if you can see what they are using. If they are using RHEL is another matter.

I know people still rocking Core2Duo and Windows XP. Can't even run a new enough Firefox to do online purchasing. A year or two ago I set them up with some mini PC from Amazon with 11 and an SSD. They still use the XP machine for one piece of software that'd cost $24 for a new license for the Windows 7+ version.

These people are loaded. Like owning 20+ rent houses, buying gold and coins as a hobby, loaded. That $24 license is too much. So, yeah, old shit is out there. Do they use RHEL? Very, very doubtful.

[microchip8]

What's with this current trend to artificially limit perfectly well capable machines? It seems Microsoft has started this trend with Windows 11 and it now has spilled over like a cancer.

[Dawn]

Snow Ridge / Parker Ridge are, in the grand scheme of hardware lifecycle, brand new.

This is stupid.

[Henk717]

Why does Linux always want to miss the boat? Nezt year you have a ton of perfectly capable Windows 10 machines that can't be upgraded such as the Sandy Bridge machine in our house. Yes the machine is old but its still more than capable of any task it needs to do because it has enough ram and an SSD. Office programs and browsers run fast.

Given the choice between migrating it to Linux and migrating it to Windows 10 LTSC that choice is very simple when Linux isn't even an option for older PC's anymore.

[drakonas777]

Office programs and browsers run fast.

I think people underestimate how much resource hungry browsers can be these days. My Skylake (6820HQ) laptop is very noticeable less responsive in browsing compared to new machines. And it's faster than Sandy Bridge by non-trivial margin.

[ktecho]

What's with this current trend to artificially limit perfectly well capable machines? It seems Microsoft has started this trend with Windows 11 and it now has spilled over like a cancer.

They're not limit anything. You'll have support for RedHat 9 for more time than anyone is willing to run an old machine... and you could even continue using that very same distribution even if the support is finished. Or change to another distro.