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Originally posted by RealNC View PostPersonally, I can't imagine Linux without BFS anymore. I'm happy CK is still around and making my desktop better. I also find it amazing how people can be so hostile (as apposed to just criticize the work on technical merits) to someone who's providing something for free, in his spare time, on a "I hope this works for you too" basis. If you it doesn't work for you, don't use it. The world does not owe you anything.
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Originally posted by Nobu View PostYou know, pride can be just as bad as envy. Not to say you shouldn't hold a certain amount of pride in your achievements, but you should keep it in check, along with your envy, lust, or whatever other of the seven you should choose to partake in.
"Pride before the fall," and all that.
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Originally posted by mrugiero View PostNope, it's not enough. If you say it's slow or bloated, then the market share is not enough. The market share weighs a lot other factors too, mostly related to price. Then, you could argue "but they're all free". Except, support is not, and IT's are not. And it's far easier to find Linux IT's and Linux support companies than FreeBSD's or Solaris' ones. And easier usually implies cheaper, too. AND, it happens Solaris is not free for production use. So, it could have nothing to do with speed or memory footprint, as long as none of them are stupidly slow or bloated. So, facts, please.
I use Linux, mostly because I'm comfortable with it.
I don't have comments on anything else, just found this to be nonsense and had to answer.
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Originally posted by i386reaper View PostI can't agree more. In fact there are a lot of people who agree with Pawlerson the BSD and Solaris = Shit:
http://aboutthebsds.wordpress.com/20.../bsd-vs-linux/
BTW, this blog is really interesting and enlightening. I'd recommend it to everyone, especially those pro-BSD fools.
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Originally posted by Pawlerson View PostYeah, right. HTC people care about OS price. It also a fact Solaris has higher memory footprint and introduces higher overhead in comparison to Linux. You don't have to believe me, but you can check this yourself and you can even find about this in google.
The front end nodes often run Linux, but I believe in the case of some IBM systems, AIX is used instead. Probably depends on what the customer wants.
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Originally posted by Pawlerson View PostI'm not blaming him, because of BFS or his work. I don't like his attitude.
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Originally posted by ChrisXY View PostSo this is another point I don't get. Linux doesn't scale to 8 CPUs yet the supercomputer at my university with more than 100.000 cores (I believe 2 16 core CPUs per node) runs Linux. Sure, there may very well be other systems that scale better, but saying linux has a "hard time"? Come on!
On the other hand, Linux scales very bad on SMP servers. That is, one big fat server with as many as 32 or even 64 cpus, for instance, IBM mainframes, Oracle M9000/M5, HP Integrity/Superdome. There are no Linux SMP servers for sale today, with more than 8 cpus. Linux has a very hard time scaling to 8 cpus. These big SMP servers, typically weigh 1000kg or more, and costs many millions. For instance, the huge IBM P595 server, with 32 cpus, used for the old TPC-C benchmark, costed $35 million list price. Not a typo. One single server costed $35 million.
So I say like I said in the other thread: show me a Linux SMP server for sale with more than 8 cpus. Last I checked, there was no vendor that sold large Linux SMP servers. The question is: why? These SMP servers costs millions and if Linux can offer a 32 cpu server for a fraction of the price, then everybody would buy. Clearly there is a market opportunity, but no Linux vendor is offering SMP servers. Why? Is it because no one wants to earn millions, or is it because Linux does not scale? Hint: see 8-socket benchmarks with Linux and discover yourself how bad results Linux gets.
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