TUXEDO Computers Launches Their First AMD Linux Laptop

[angrypie]

I can understand some of the skeptics, there is good reason for some criticisms.

But I will just ask one question...

Is there any other AMD-based laptop out there that comes either with a Linux distro pre-installed or even simply bare?

To my knowledge, they are the first ones to actually do it. This might not be the best laptop, but this is the best milestone towards being able to buy what some of us have wanted for years. And if only for that they deserve some respect.

"Might not be the best" is a huge understatement. Ryzen is particularly sensitive to memory bandwidth, this is basically an overpriced Facebook machine.

Are they trying to ridicule us?

[Mez']

I bought Lenovo A485 bare,... And, I saw some offers for HP laptops, too.

If you could point these HP laptops out... Would be great.
Unfortunately, in my country these A485 are sold with Windows. If they can be bought bare, I missed that info.

Although this has nothing to do with the subject and I would still be happy if they had an AMD-based laptop with no Windows on it, a Thinkpad is the last laptop I would ever buy.

I can understand some of the skeptics, there is good reason for some criticisms.

But I will just ask one question...

Is there any other AMD-based laptop out there that comes either with a Linux distro pre-installed or even simply bare?

To my knowledge, they are the first ones to actually do it. This might not be the best laptop, but this is the best milestone towards being able to buy what some of us have wanted for years. And if only for that they deserve some respect.

I bought Lenovo A485 bare,... And, I saw some offers for HP laptops, too.

[Mez']

I can understand some of the skeptics, there is good reason for some criticisms.

But I will just ask one question...

Is there any other AMD-based laptop out there that comes either with a Linux distro pre-installed or even simply bare?

To my knowledge, they are the first ones to actually do it. This might not be the best laptop, but this is the best milestone towards being able to buy what some of us have wanted for years. And if only for that they deserve some respect.

Agreed. It's not like you cannot put Linux on a modern machine that ships with windows. You might have to check whether things like trackpads etc. are supported, though.

I do not really get what the benefit of this machine over the Dells and Lenovos is. I mean, I get that a niche company might not have the resources to release state of the art products whenever a new CPU launches. It might take them a while. Most likely, they do not receive the same support as the mainstream brands do either. However, I find it almost offensive that they are actually trying to sell a single channel (read: crippled, performing well below what would be possible) device to a group of IT enthusiast because, let's face it, nobody else will bother with devices like this. At this point, buying their device can only be classified as a religious act.

It's possible to get Lenovo ThinkPad E595 with better specs at better price,...

[r_a_trip]

What you seem to be forgetting is that Tuxedo is a German company. Germany is not exactly a cheap country, so it's not strange that they ask a bit more of a premium price.

And that is my problem how? It's just not an attractive thing. "Ooh, it came with Linux!" and so so specs. Either offer something all the others are not offering in a better package or get out of the business. We don't need "me too" products.

[mos87]

That is all good and well but none of your reasons has to do with actually using the device

It is usable alright. If using == gaming... then maybe.

[JonnyDee]

Why would I buy an AMD Tuxedo laptop if it has an old CPU which is even not allowed to perform well due to this single channel?

I have been looking forward to a Ryzen AMD laptop from Tuxedo since I read that they were working on it. But now I am disappointed. I don't want to buy an AMD laptop for religious reasons. I am looking for an 8 core laptop with(!) SMT which is affordable, can be used unplugged for more than 1 hour, and provides access to all the CPU power there is available.

If vendors just offer crippled AMD based systems they hopefully don't wonder why selling them might not be worth it. They hopefully don't come to the conclusion that people don't want AMD laptops. Vendors should offer good hardware for less money (AMD CPUs are cheaper than Intel ones, right?) and then people will buy it.

[CochainComplex]

since Tuxedo uses Clevo I think they have to wait until Clevo updates their Portfolio. dont know how intel focused they are....if they are like dell it will take years to get some proper AMD Notebook.

[Vistaus]

Another meh product for a premium. This is what is mostly wrong with Linux based IHV's. You have to accept glaring shortcomings compared to the competition. It's always hardware that would have been impressive 2 years ago, for a price that will buy you a far better machine with the competition. Yes, that hardware is subsidized with crapware, you pay for a Windows license, yadda, yadda, yadda. Truth is that you will have a machine that is up to par with now, not yesterday and it will still be running Linux beautifully.

Don't come to me with "You will be supporting Linux." No, I won't. I will be supporting a company putting out subpar hardware (when compared to the competition) that happens to ship with Linux. Then I will have to put up with lesser hardware and Linux not one inch closer to desktop domination.

What you seem to be forgetting is that Tuxedo is a German company. Germany is not exactly a cheap country, so it's not strange that they ask a bit more of a premium price. I do, however, agree that at least the RAM should've been dual-channel.