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Originally posted by Mr.Radar View PostThe choice of the PLS8 for LTE module pretty much means I won't be buying one since none of the variants of it support band 12, something that has been standard on phones since 2016 and which is critical for use on T-Mobile US. In contrast the team at PINE64 seemed receptive to using an LTE module with band 12 and band 71 support (something that's still very recent) in the PinePhone when I inquired about it with them on their forum. Between that and the price difference I think I know which of these two products I will be supporting (which is too bad because I do genuinely want to show support for libre hardware).
.....there are very real costs and complexities associated with obtaining that certification, and it must be done on a device-by-device basis. Many phone OEMs, then, may simply choose to remove band 12 support from their unlocked smartphones sold in America.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ill-confusing/
Pine may have been "receptive" to using Band 12. Wait until they try to get their device certified for Band 12 use. Since TMo is the only one using such a scheme and they aren't AT&T or Verizon....just saying.
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Originally posted by juno View PostI remember Jolla doing the same thing with unclear specs. It was announced with a "HD" display, so while everyone was secretly hoping for FullHD we were pretty sure it was going to be 720p. It then came out with 540p and they claimed qHD was still HD...
FullHD is 1080p
If you read HD and still hope for FullHD it's your own fault...
That said, 720p in a smartphone screen is good enough.
There are laptops with 15.6" screens being sold with 1366p screens...
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Originally posted by nomadewolf View PostThat said, 720p in a smartphone screen is good enough.
There are laptops with 15.6" screens being sold with 1366p screens...
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Originally posted by nomadewolf View Post
HD is 720p
FullHD is 1080p
If you read HD and still hope for FullHD it's your own fault...
That said, 720p in a smartphone screen is good enough.
There are laptops with 15.6" screens being sold with 1366p screens...
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Originally posted by edwaleni View Post
T-mobile's special requirement that says any device operating on T-Mo's band 12 frequency must support VoLTE and be certified for E911 on that band. In the US, pretty much all the devices that do not meet the criteria simply "disable"/"drop" band 12 period. Given that it's an LTE band that isn't very common worldwide, it's no big deal for other carriers.
.....there are very real costs and complexities associated with obtaining that certification, and it must be done on a device-by-device basis. Many phone OEMs, then, may simply choose to remove band 12 support from their unlocked smartphones sold in America.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ill-confusing/
Pine may have been "receptive" to using Band 12. Wait until they try to get their device certified for Band 12 use. Since TMo is the only one using such a scheme and they aren't AT&T or Verizon....just saying.
EDIT: Additionally, Verizon is shutting down their 2G and 3G networks at the end of the year and AT&T will shut down their 3G network by the end of 2021 (having already shut down their 2G network) so any phone that does not support VoLTE will soon be near useless for voice calls in the US in the near future. (T-Mobile US hasn't specified a date for shutting down 2G and 3G on their network but I don't think they'll keep them around much longer than AT&T and Verizon, especially since large parts of their network only have service on LTE bands 12 or 71 with no 2G or 3G fallback.)Last edited by Mr.Radar; 21 February 2019, 03:15 PM.
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Originally posted by Mateus Felipe View PostStill a overpriced low-end hardware. I would like to be able to purchase something so expensive, but if I was able I would actually buy a high-end instead.
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I am pretty sure we expect 1440x720, though right now they're saying a size 5.5" to 5.7" and just "HD".
Perhaps they're aiming for the 5.7" 1440x720 display, but were it unavailable or something they'd go for a 5.5" one, either 1280x720 or 1440x720.
Regarding the lag : it's not huge. Looks like CPU or GPU running at minimum speed, or less efficient debug executables for everything concerned (driver, compositor). Or what not.
I remember a previous time, someone complained about an ugly font.
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Originally posted by grok View PostI am pretty sure we expect 1440x720, though right now they're saying a size 5.5" to 5.7" and just "HD".
Perhaps they're aiming for the 5.7" 1440x720 display, but were it unavailable or something they'd go for a 5.5" one, either 1280x720 or 1440x720.
Regarding the lag : it's not huge. Looks like CPU or GPU running at minimum speed, or less efficient debug executables for everything concerned (driver, compositor). Or what not.
I remember a previous time, someone complained about an ugly font.
The lag is from Gnome/GTK, which is anything but mature for mobiles as of yet. I don't care since I'd use Plasma Mobile anyway (:
Disclaimer: backer
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