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@Michael: since Phoronix and LGP are so close, wouldn't a poll be useful to them? like the one Novell did a few years ago about "the most wanted Windows application missing in Linux" about AutoCAD/PhoteShop and etc BUT the poll will be about games, about what games do we (linux game buyers and players) want to be ported
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Yup. That looks to be the threads. I'll try to find the posts that talk about that.
*Side comment*
Pardon me Aradeth, but everytime I see your name, I always see it as Aribeth. *still recovering from Aribeth's betrayal*
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After plowing through 20+ pages of Svartalf vs Stanley Woo, I am starting to think, what I read was a NWN2 Linux request topic by a mod. After all, they did say not to post on their forums about it and to do it at Atari. Sorry for the misinformation, but it's still quite a good read.Last edited by niniendowarrior; 22 May 2008, 08:38 AM.
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Originally posted by niniendowarrior View PostNot readily. There's been like a good number of closed threads on that one on the Bioware forum due to excessive length.
Officially, that's Bioware's response. I think inside those Linux threads on Dragon Age, they say they aren't Anti-Linux. It's just not their call. Svartalf knows about it, I'd think... he was also there in the battles.
I don't have time to go grave digging on the Bioware forums though, my apologies. So I don't have a link to show you.
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostGotta link? The only thing I found there was Scott Meadows reply "We have not announced anything about system requirements yet. Stay Tuned." on the 27th of last month, when asked about a linux client. Of course, as usual, I'm not holding my breath.
Officially, that's Bioware's response. I think inside those Linux threads on Dragon Age, they say they aren't Anti-Linux. It's just not their call. Svartalf knows about it, I'd think... he was also there in the battles.
I don't have time to go grave digging on the Bioware forums though, my apologies. So I don't have a link to show you.
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Originally posted by niniendowarrior View PostThe huuuuge thread in the Bioware forum on Dragon Age for Linux is a good read. Developers can port on Linux. They can if they wanted to. They cannot because the publishers don't want them to.
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Originally posted by Licaon View Postthat's a fair view, but that won't make Sacred or Sacred 2/3/4/etc a good/better game at least not in my view
Originally posted by Licaon View Postso what can we do? how can we make them "feel" that they lost a sale? (cause whining here posting more of these won't change nothing )
Originally posted by Licaon View Postyes, and is this better that playing it bad in WINE? How else if not buying the game can we make the publishers/devs understand that THERE IS a market in Linux gaming?
this was what i did, i bought the game, registered to their forum (where you can register your game and have a GAME OWNER tag, like on the BioWare forum AFAIK), and started posting about running it on Linux and stuff; it's not much but i feel it's better than some petition on some site, IMHO
having 10-20 users, registered on their forum, barring GAME OWNER tags, saying that it runs bad in WINE and a native version would be needed, would make a bigger impact, IMHO, than 1000 users that just signed that petition; 1000 promised sales equal 0$ for any dev
Originally posted by Licaon View PostGreat then!!! hooray for him... which titles?
Originally posted by Licaon View Postok i do understand, but game that won't sell that good because of their gameplay will not help get better titles, but create more problems regarding profitability
this is the chicken and egg issue: devs will port better titles if these not-so-better titles sell; users won't buy not-so-better titles; devs can't port better games so they go and port more not-so-better titles and hope that will port better titles if these not-so-better titles sell...and so on and so forth...
this makes me truly sad
the thing that leaves a bad taste in _my_ mouth is summarized in the second line af my first post:
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Originally posted by Licaon View PostGreat then!!! hooray for him... which titles?
Edit: it's not full time, look at post 21 in this very thread. (knew I had seen it somewhere)Last edited by Aradreth; 21 May 2008, 07:16 PM.
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Originally posted by niniendowarrior View PostSacred could be the first of many more titles being ported into Linux from that development studio. Instead of seeing it as an opportunity, people berate LGP for even bothering to get it. Let's not be so harsh on them.
Originally posted by niniendowarrior View PostDo what you will with it, but the industry numbers going back to the big publishers do not change as long as everyone attempts to buy a Windows copy and tries to run it on Linux.
Originally posted by niniendowarrior View PostIt runs on Wine, enjoy it on Wine if you want. But when all is said and done, it's still a Windows tally going back. I was *this* close to succumbing to Witcher for Windows because I like what I see thus far. Knowing they shafted the Linux version leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
this was what i did, i bought the game, registered to their forum (where you can register your game and have a GAME OWNER tag, like on the BioWare forum AFAIK), and started posting about running it on Linux and stuff; it's not much but i feel it's better than some petition on some site, IMHO
having 10-20 users, registered on their forum, barring GAME OWNER tags, saying that it runs bad in WINE and a native version would be needed, would make a bigger impact, IMHO, than 1000 users that just signed that petition; 1000 promised sales equal 0$ for any dev
Originally posted by Aradreth View PostHe has helped port titles to Linux? >.>
Originally posted by Aradreth View PostI assumed that LGP were porting Sacred to build up Ascaron's confidences to let them touch more popular titles because from what I've seen porting companies tend to start small with each developer then work their way up to better titles as they prove that it's profitable.
this is the chicken and egg issue: devs will port better titles if these not-so-better titles sell; users won't buy not-so-better titles; devs can't port better games so they go and port more not-so-better titles and hope that will port better titles if these not-so-better titles sell...and so on and so forth...
this makes me truly sad
the thing that leaves a bad taste in _my_ mouth is summarized in the second line af my first post:Originally posted by Licaon View Posttoo bad that the good intentions of linuxgamepublishing meet these bad game choicesLast edited by Licaon; 21 May 2008, 07:21 PM.
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Originally posted by Licaon View Postwhat did you do about this or any other game that you wanted to play under your OS of choice?
I think Svartalf is responding in a general direction, not to a single response and I have the same sentiments. People whine here about it and in my opinion, that does no good at all. I also think that we do not know the big picture of what goes on behind the scenes. Sacred could be the first of many more titles being ported into Linux from that development studio. Instead of seeing it as an opportunity, people berate LGP for even bothering to get it. Let's not be so harsh on them.
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I think Svartalf is responding in a general direction, not to a single response and I have the same sentiments. People whine here about it and in my opinion, that does no good at all. I also think that we do not know the big picture of what goes on behind the scenes. Sacred could be the first of many more titles being ported into Linux from that development studio. Instead of seeing it as an opportunity, people berate LGP for even bothering to get it. Let's not be so harsh on them.
I see Svartalf's point on not being interested in Windows games as similar as if I own a PS3 and a Xbox 360 exclusive comes along the way, I don't care what it is. I'm not buying an Xbox 360 for it. You have the money to burn, go ahead.
I do suppose, at the end of the day, it's your money and your say. Do what you will with it, but the industry numbers going back to the big publishers do not change as long as everyone attempts to buy a Windows copy and tries to run it on Linux. It runs on Wine, enjoy it on Wine if you want. But when all is said and done, it's still a Windows tally going back. I was *this* close to succumbing to Witcher for Windows because I like what I see thus far. Knowing they shafted the Linux version leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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