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Originally posted by SquarepusherI hate to be the one to tell you, but the US no longer produces anything.
It's a service-level economy now.
So by your own standards - you're in a world of shit right now.
Stop listening to Obama and start growing a brain and realizing that while you were counting your 'enterpreneur app store' eggs before they hatched, massive European-style austerity is looming around the corner.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostThe american economy is worth dozens of trillions of dollars right now. And Rising. Hell, Texas by itself is the 6th largest economy in the world. If you don't think we produce anything, then WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU BITCHING ABOUT?
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Originally posted by Sonadow View PostThing is, your economy is also having to shoulder a ludicrously large amount of national debt. And that is what worries the economists.
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Originally posted by Squarepusher
Programmer nerds these days are the most spineless pathetic people around - zero integrity, they don't believe in unions (so they are easily the boss' bitch and can be treated and exploited like a professional wrestler or somebody who doesn't enjoy any worker's protection), and generally what they are is socially maladjusted cowards that just want to disconnect from the world and 'not give a shit'. It's sad that people who are highly skilled workers are content with sweatshop working standard conditions from their employers. Time to grow a backbone and realize that 'competing with China/India' is going to end up very badly for your living standard - and these IT managers won't give a shit if you get taken down a few notches in that department - perpetual crunch time for all is their motto.
And I'm so spineless because being made to turn back on tinkering with Linux has actually allowed me to finally give money back to my parents after all these years.
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Originally posted by SquarepusherThen you are a damn moron if you believe that - because this 'reducing the deficit' garbage is what is killing Europe right now.
Really - step off your crackpot Ron Paul/Rand Paul Libertarian theories concerned with 'reducing the deficit' and all this claptrap - now if you're a Southerner I understand why you think like that but damn son - can't you aim a little higher than that garbage?
BTW - if you want your 'Ron Paul/Rand Paul' President so badly - I have a suggestion for you - move over to Holland - we already have a 'Ron Paul/Rand Paul' government over here in control that believes in privatizing goddamn everything including your drinking water. And guess what their economic policies spell to the country? S-L-O-W DEATH.
And people believe modernday Europe is ruled by 'socialism' - yeah right - perhaps Americans want to point Europe on a map again and start revisiting their ancient theories on Europe - what is 'sweeping' Europe right now is Republican far-right libertarian crackpot ideas concerning 'economics'. Socialism is not your problem right now in Europe - it is so far gone there is no socialism left - but fascist Libertarian crackpot ideals are.
It doesnt take a genius to get it. If you owe money you have to pay it back.... If you don't want to pay it back, then don't borrow it in the first place.
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostNo socialism here in Europe for sure. Just look at France who just taxed the rich 90% so that every rich guy ran from that country in a couple of months. Absolutely no socialism here in Europe.
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Originally posted by SquarepusherThen why did the US under Hoover do a debt moratorium if you firmly believe in 'paying off the debt'?
Look it up.
There was also a ban on foreclosures in there for the duration of the current Depression at the time.
Was Hoover a 'socialist' as well or did he just have 'common sense knowledge' and they weren't as drunk then on Libertian/conservative republican crackpot theories as they are now?
How are you going to PAY OFF THE DEBT that the banks have imposed on the federal government when they have created QUADRILLIONS OF DERIVATIVES and they now want to put that on the backs of the working class people who had no part in these derivative frauds? Are you going to give them REAL MONEY for that speculative casino 'funny money' they made up and hyped up as 'tangible assets'? Are you going to 'reward criminals' for their wrongdoing and therefore running up the FEDERAL DEBT - thereby GUTTING the social safety net?
This is just insanity. You CAN'T pay off the debts that the banks have run up.
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Originally posted by SquarepusherIf you are a fiscal conservative ranting and screaming about government debt while giving the banks a free pass, then not only do you not have any political judgment - you are cutting off your own throat to spite your own face.
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