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  • #71
    Squarepusher you're pretty wacked out man. You know if you stopped lining up the powder your nose bleeds would get better right? Have you started breathing through your eyeball sockets yet?

    BO$$ you and I don't often agree, but I'm on your side. Give em hell man.

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    • #72
      So creating a bird game using an open framework is parasitic. Creating a Super Mario Bros. "clone with a gimmick" shows a lack of creativity. Pushing out a game with Quake 2-level graphics is an embarrassment. Making money off of one's labors is about as bad as being a cockroach.

      HOWEVER... creating an emulator program that does nothing more than run somebody else's ancient yet creative hard work -- in an unlicensed manner -- is badass and where the true awesomeness of individuality lies.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by duby229 View Post
        BO$$ you and I don't often agree, but I'm on your side. Give em hell man.
        Troll-on-troll battles, got to love those.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Squarepusher
          *snip*
          Yadda yadda yadda...

          I'll believe it for myself when I see a FOSS game with the same graphical quality and entertainment value of an AA-grade game (forget AAA-grade, not gonna happen) found on Windows, the PS3, the Wii, the Xbox or even the DSi / 3DS or PS Vita.

          If an analogue / comparison is desired, think Crysis 1-era graphics. The day I see a complete FOSS game that matches the gameplay value and graphical quality of Crysis 1 on 'Ultra' settings with the highest MSAA settings running on 60fps using open drivers is the day I'm convinced.
          Last edited by Sonadow; 22 April 2013, 12:25 PM.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by johnc View Post
            So creating a bird game using an open framework is parasitic. Creating a Super Mario Bros. "clone with a gimmick" shows a lack of creativity. Pushing out a game with Quake 2-level graphics is an embarrassment. Making money off of one's labors is about as bad as being a cockroach.

            HOWEVER... creating an emulator program that does nothing more than run somebody else's ancient yet creative hard work -- in an unlicensed manner -- is badass and where the true awesomeness of individuality lies.
            This is what I was thinking while reading through this thread. I was also thinking a teenager somewhere needs to shave off the scraggly beard on their neck, and take a trip outside of their mothers basement.

            My only complaint about Ouya is they can't get their consoles out to early backers like me soon enough. Performance was never a factor in making the decision to back the project on kickstarter when I did. I've seen people do some incredible things with far far far less. For Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQvWa_q8OrI (Even though the concept is not original it's still an awesome feat to achieve that on a ti-83/84) **Sarcasm** but...but....the leaches who made that used the axe parser and are henceforth not worthy of praise..... its too high level**/Sarcasm**
            Last edited by moonlitfire; 22 April 2013, 12:37 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Squarepusher
              Gutter-trash first person shooters that are all about militaristic 'kill kill kill' is what i call social degeneration and not a good idea to invest one's time in. Moreover, I wouldn't want to emulate that even if my life depended on it.

              If you think 'COD' is something to be proud of, then fine - just know that there is a backlash building up against this kind of 'social degeneration' - and really, 'you are what you eat' also applies to 'you are what you play' - if all you play is gutter trash videogames where everything is about torture and killing, then hey, don't be surprised when one of these nutjobs starts playing around with the idea of setting off a few bombs or killing some people for real. You guys think you can have your cake and eat it as well - not going to happen son - this stuff is defnitely having a psychological effect on people, and to just say 'videogame violence' has no effect on people is just playing to the pathetic CEOs in this 'game business' that want to shift the blame and put it all on 'parents being responsible'. Sorry son - that shit won't fly when this is an industry that fetishizes violence, fetishizes torture and gun porn.

              Jack Thompson was right in the end about the kind of 'gutter trash' sewer that most modern games have become.
              Nobody is asking you to emulate Crysis 1's gameplay. So stop that selective reading and actually READ the whole post, not just the parts you want to see.

              Get FOSS games to the same graphical quality as Crysis 1 capable of running at Ultra with 16xMSAA on open drivers with an average fps of 60 and we shall see. And I have very good reason to doubt that OpenGL can come close to what game studios are currently capable of doing doing with DirectX11.
              Last edited by Sonadow; 22 April 2013, 12:41 PM.

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              • #77
                If you don't like it then compete.... It's that simple.... The US is by far the number one producer of media. Create your own Movies, Music, Art, Games, Novels, etc, etc. If you think your way is better then proliferate it. Start producing and stop bitching.
                Last edited by duby229; 22 April 2013, 12:57 PM.

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                • #78
                  I hate to to be the one to tell you, but you don't know history very well. The Egyptians, Hellenist Greeks, Romans and even the USSR all collapsed because of social policies. WELFARE STATES DONT WORK.

                  Stop bitching and start producing. Get a job and go to work reliably. Stop mooching off your mother. Quite applying for government aids. Support yourself. Buy your own food. Pay for your own school. If you have to work through college then just fucking do it. Life isnt easy, and the fucking socialist government isnt going to make it easy. When the government that you love so much collapses because it can't support you and all your socialist cronies, then what the fuck are you going to do then? Huh? Will you finally get off your lazy fucking ass and get a job then?
                  Last edited by duby229; 22 April 2013, 01:10 PM.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Squarepusher
                    Too much SoCal 'peacock behavior' and too little 'working class solidarity' to give a shit about other people, the poor, charity, et al.
                    In this world, you look out for yourself and your immediate group only. That is how it has always been.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Squarepusher
                      Hey bubba - I can't help it if the socially backwards country you live in glorifies killing, glorifies torture, glorifies abuse and glorifies bombs. You reap what you sow. We don't have those problems over here in Europe for the most part (unless it happens to be Eastern-European marauding gangs and other 'import' products 'culturally enriching' society at large).
                      Ohh yeah. It's not like there have been any bombings in Madrid or London or anything.

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