Gabe Newell Showing Valve On Linux To Partners

[log0]

When it occurs nearly as frequently as it occurs in Linux distros, then there would be a valid comparison here.

Because you have some numbers to support your argument?

[kazetsukai]

My big problem is getting my Sixaxis to work in Ubuntu. It appears to connect fine but not one button works.

Huh? They're standard HID joysticks when connected via USB. If your PS3 isn't on and connected to the controller, plugging it in via USB should "just work" since the day the PS3 came out (perhaps earlier).

[nightmarex]

Driver fiasco damned Linux is ready, bring it!

[johnc]

Ehmm... google for "windows update bsod". If users can tolerate this, they will tolerate a blinking cursor.

When it occurs nearly as frequently as it occurs in Linux distros, then there would be a valid comparison here.

[log0]

You mentioned the LTS... Shortly after I installed it, a new kernel was pushed out. Install... Reboot... Blinking cursor. Okay, I know what's wrong there (since I'm quite familiar with the problem), and yes, this isn't directly of Valve's concern. But if Valve is looking to move their customers from Windows to Linux (perhaps to avoid the Windows app store), then we can all be sure that newcomers are not going to tolerate blinking-cursors-on-reboot.

Ehmm... google for "windows update bsod". If users can tolerate this, they will tolerate a blinking cursor.

[gbudny]

Postal 2 is generally in bad taste, so I am not surprised Steam doesn't want it.

However Valve will let RWS release Postal 3 (Windows) on Steam::

http://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/10220/

Why?

[johnc]

No, we just have one idiot who has no clue. We have Ubuntu LTS and it switches kernel every 5 years and everything usually works. It's not the vb, .net, drivers and registry mess like in Windows pal. While Windows is considered usable there's no chance it won't work with Ubuntu.

Perhaps the tone of my post was a bit on the snarky side -- I guess my frustration cup hath runneth over recently. But I think it is valid to say that Linux is not ready for gaming enthusiasts (Valve's primary market), unless those gamers happen to be familiar with all the idiosyncrasies of Linux (which is a tiny user base to begin with -- Venn diagram and all).

You mentioned the LTS... Shortly after I installed it, a new kernel was pushed out. Install... Reboot... Blinking cursor. Okay, I know what's wrong there (since I'm quite familiar with the problem), and yes, this isn't directly of Valve's concern. But if Valve is looking to move their customers from Windows to Linux (perhaps to avoid the Windows app store), then we can all be sure that newcomers are not going to tolerate blinking-cursors-on-reboot.

While I can handle these kinds of quirks quite easily, I have to admit that even I get frustrated at times... When I'm just looking to do X but a roadblock is thrown up and I have to waste my time fixing something before I can get the job done.

I'm just saying that what we have currently is nowhere near good enough for anything other than hacker and hobbyist adoption... and playing ostrich does not make any of the problems go away.

[entropy]

Postal 2 is generally in bad taste, so I am not surprised Steam doesn't want it.

Plus Windows and Mac versions are also not available via Steam.

[rustybroomhandle]

"Hey! Sorry this is a rathar late reply.

The rest of the fudge pack will end up on Desura, I need to clear some time and get that sorted.

Complete was always included, we just changed the name to reflect that.

And no, Valve will not let us release Postal 2 on Steam, sadly."

http://www.desura.com/games/postal-2/forum/thread/will-rest-of-fudge-pack-be-on-desura

What other games for Linux Valve will not let release on Steam?

Postal 2 is generally in bad taste, so I am not surprised Steam doesn't want it.

[gbudny]

"Hey! Sorry this is a rathar late reply.

The rest of the fudge pack will end up on Desura, I need to clear some time and get that sorted.

Complete was always included, we just changed the name to reflect that.

And no, Valve will not let us release Postal 2 on Steam, sadly."

http://www.desura.com/games/postal-2/forum/thread/will-rest-of-fudge-pack-be-on-desura

What other games for Linux Valve will not let release on Steam?