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    Phoronix: Linux 4.15-rc6 Released To Ring In 2018

    Linus Torvalds has released the sixth weekly release candidate of the upcoming Linux 4.15 kernel...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...5-rc6-Released

  • #2
    Typos:

    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    Linux 4.15-rc6 is mostly comprised of x76 updates that are arriving
    Last edited by tildearrow; 12-31-2017, 08:09 PM. Reason: the other one is not really a typo

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
      Typos:
      Double negation mixup, cleared up now, as it should be here in 3 weeks.
      Michael Larabel
      http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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      • #4
        4.14.10 and 4.15-RC6 still breaks nvidia. According to kernel devs "it's not their problem." I guess that means we all have debug and patch video drivers ourselves. Ubuntu's graphics-drivers PPA is compltely useless to me right now. Heck, the idiot-proofed Software & Updates app doesn't even report the 384.90 install error. It acts like everything went perfectly fine.

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        System:    Host: hp1710 Kernel: 4.15.0-041500rc6-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
                   Distro: Ubuntu 17.10
        CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i7-6500U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
                   clock speeds: max: 3100 MHz 1: 691 MHz 2: 2119 MHz 3: 1516 MHz 4: 1932 MHz
        Graphics:  Card-1: Intel HD Graphics 520
                   Card-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce 940MX]
                   Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.5 ) drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) FAILED: modesetting,nouveau
                   Resolution: [email protected]
                   OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 520 (Skylake GT2) version: 4.5 Mesa 17.2.2
        I guess I'm lucky I have built-in Intel graphics too or I'd be completely fooked.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by InsideJob View Post
          4.14.10 and 4.15-RC6 still breaks nvidia. According to kernel devs "it's not their problem." I guess that means we all have debug and patch video drivers ourselves.
          I have a simple solution for this problem: Buy AMD hardware instead.

          Nvidia will NEVER again get any good from the Linux Community. this time is over
          Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post

            I have a simple solution for this problem: Buy AMD hardware instead.

            Nvidia will NEVER again get any good from the Linux Community. this time is over
            We (linux community, me personally and about two other individuals plus one canonical employee) typically provide patches at nvidia dev forums hours/days after they break in linus-master tree.

            Nvidia only supports kernels _after_ they've been released on their monthly schedule per branch (bi-weekly releases of beta/stable drivers), typically this means that newest kernels in distributions are supported by latest drivers, in few rare cases when they weren't, distro maintainers used our (adapted) patches or delayed driver package releases until the issue was resolved.

            End user only hits these problems if they are running master tree or latest rc-X releases though (and chances are that these are fixed by patches provided at said forum by the time anyone notices).

            AMD users have _some_ advantage here because open-source drive is mainlined, but on the other hand they don't have release-day support for newest hardware (Nvidia typically adds support during each of their driver releases).

            I am personally compiling git master kernel daily and fixing/releasing patches as breakages appear, hence why I can safely say that you have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

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            Linux tpruzina 4.15.0-rc6-tpruzina-master-dirty #1407 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jan 1 04:30:02 CET 2018 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700K CPU @ 4.20GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
            Originally posted by InsideJob View Post
            4.14.10 and 4.15-RC6 still breaks nvidia. According to kernel devs "it's not their problem." I guess that means we all have debug and patch video drivers ourselves. Ubuntu's graphics-drivers PPA is compltely useless to me right now. Heck, the idiot-proofed Software & Updates app doesn't even report the 384.90 install error. It acts like everything went perfectly fine.
            Would like a quote for that "it's no their problem" part. I'm not saying that they should or even can support every RC, unless their driver gets mainlined it is literally impossible to do. As far as patching your drivers yourself, that is the price you pay for running bleeding edge kernels. Oh and as stated above, you don't even how to fix the code yourself, there are people who are already doing it and providing patches as needed. You can definitely run RC-6 with our patches and it takes almost no effort to do so (no idea about 4.14.0, I never run anything but git-master kernel but I know that there are some people who backport these patches for older/stable kernels as well, I'm just not one of them).

            I'm sorry that your distribution (or PPA) doesn't provide bleeding edge drivers and kernels hours after they've been released, they probably have life too and/or want to actually test drivers before exposing thousands of users to possible regressions.
            Last edited by tpruzina; 12-31-2017, 11:49 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post

              I have a simple solution for this problem: Buy AMD hardware instead.

              Nvidia will NEVER again get any good from the Linux Community. this time is over
              Surely everyone should run and grab some low-end cards for 600+ € just because there are some software issues. First get AMD to make cards, and at an acceptable price.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by eydee View Post
                Surely everyone should run and grab some low-end cards for 600+ € just because there are some software issues. First get AMD to make cards, and at an acceptable price.
                ???

                https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...=-1&isNodeId=1

                There are much cheaper cards but Lexa is pretty new and maybe the best perf/$$. Basically a Cape Verde-sized Polaris.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tpruzina View Post
                  AMD users have _some_ advantage here because open-source drive is mainlined, but on the other hand they don't have release-day support for newest hardware (Nvidia typically adds support during each of their driver releases).
                  Says a person with zero experience in latest Amd gpus. With my A8-7600, RX460 and RX560 AMD open source support has been excellent just right after the release date. Bugs have been fixed fast. A person who values easy maintenance, buys AMD gpus and will have a huge advantage. With nvidia you have no X running when installing and updating the driver, no easy way to roll back, patching is needed for latest kernels and no way to fix closed source bugs by your self.

                  Linux is open source.
                  Last edited by debianxfce; 01-01-2018, 03:29 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by InsideJob View Post
                    4.14.10 and 4.15-RC6 still breaks nvidia.
                    In software bugs happen quite often. Existence of bugs as such is not disqualifying. Problematic may be only what gets done with them and how fast they get fixed. 4.14.10 has been released on 29-12 and 4.15-RC6 just yesterday which means there have not been all that much time to fix an error especially your post is from 03:17 AM next day... You expected someone to fix a problem in the middle of the night for You? How so if I bet you probably didn't even report it to the bugzilla anywhere.
                    Besides bugs to get fixed need to be reproducible which in my case for example a reported bug in Gentoo went unfixed for over a year hence no one was able to reproduce it. When I actually sit down to look at it it turned out it was caused by out of the tree package which was improperly installed. And whether You like it or not this is just an example of many similar cases which obviously are hard to catch by software devs.

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