Flatpak Officially Announced For "Next Generation Linux Applications"

[starshipeleven]

In our router, we had no attackers with 3G with different operator, so 3G and 4G networks are safer than adsl that we used 4 year ago from 2 different ISP. Here is our router log, the router has been on 2 days and same wan ip, no attackers and that is boring.

182     Jun 22 11:46:15     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send ACK to 192.168.0.101
181     Jun 22 11:46:15     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Recv REQUEST from 14D:A9:E6:B2:BF
180     Jun 22 11:46:15     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send OFFER with ip 192.168.0.101
179     Jun 22 11:46:15     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Recv DISCOVER from 14D:A9:E6:B2:BF
178     Jun 22 11:46:15     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send OFFER with ip 192.168.0.101
177     Jun 22 11:46:15     DHCP     ERROR     DHCPS:lease host name not found
176     Jun 22 11:46:15     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Recv DISCOVER from 14D:A9:E6:B2:BF
175     Jun 22 09:35:33     DHCP     INFO     dhcpc_ipc_data_rcv_router 677 : current network type = 1
174     Jun 22 09:35:33     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPC:GET ip:c0a80864 mask:ffffff00 gateway:c0a80801 dns1:c0a80801 dns2:c0a80801 static route:0
173     Jun 22 09:35:33     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPC Recv ACK from server c0a80801 with ip c0a80864 lease time 86400
172     Jun 22 09:35:32     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPC Send REQUEST to server c0a80801 with request ip c0a80864
171     Jun 22 05:35:55     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send ACK to 192.168.0.101
170     Jun 22 05:35:55     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Recv REQUEST from 14D:A9:E6:B2:BF
169     Jun 22 05:35:55     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send OFFER with ip 192.168.0.101
168     Jun 22 05:35:55     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Recv DISCOVER from 14D:A9:E6:B2:BF
167     Jun 22 05:35:55     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send OFFER with ip 192.168.0.101
166     Jun 22 05:35:55     DHCP     ERROR     DHCPS:lease host name not found
165     Jun 22 05:35:55     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Recv DISCOVER from 14D:A9:E6:B2:BF
164     Jun 21 23:20:21     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send ACK to 192.168.0.101
163     Jun 21 23:20:21     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Recv REQUEST from 14D:A9:E6:B2:BF
162     Jun 21 23:20:21     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send OFFER with ip 192.168.0.101
161     Jun 21 23:20:21     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Recv DISCOVER from 14D:A9:E6:B2:BF
160     Jun 21 23:20:21     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send OFFER with ip 192.168.0.101
159     Jun 21 23:20:21     DHCP     ERROR     DHCPS:lease host name not found
158     Jun 21 23:20:21     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Recv DISCOVER from 14D:A9:E6:B2:BF
157     Jun 21 21:35:30     DHCP     INFO     dhcpc_ipc_data_rcv_router 677 : current network type = 1
156     Jun 21 21:35:30     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPC:GET ip:c0a80864 mask:ffffff00 gateway:c0a80801 dns1:c0a80801 dns2:c0a80801 static route:0
155     Jun 21 21:35:30     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPC Recv ACK from server c0a80801 with ip c0a80864 lease time 86400
154     Jun 21 21:35:29     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPC Send REQUEST to server c0a80801 with request ip c0a80864
153     Jun 21 19:50:30     DHCP     NOTICE     DHCPS:Send ACK to 192.168.0.101

This is the log of your local network, not WAN, dumbass.

192.168.0.something is the IP range used by small local networks (up to 250-ish devices)

DHCP is the router service giving IPs to devices on ethernet or wifi.

In the log there is nothing wrong, this is normal operation.

There is only one device (your PC probably, check its MAC and IP address when connected to this router) with mac address

14:DD:A9:E6:B2:BF

that is requesting IPs in this log, the DHCP server gives it 192.168.0.101, and this address is set to expire every few hours or so. So every now and then it asks for a new IP again and the router gives it the same IP as it had before.

This is normal operation for dynamic IP networks.

[starshipeleven]

Sure 3G/4G networks are universally better, lower bandwidth 3G/4G works in underpopulated areas where installing cable is not an option. Just choose your operator with many base stations as possible where you live, see: https://www.cellmapper.net/map

Sure, with Third World Country pricing. In most developed countries the contracts are horribly expensive if you go beyond the 5GB of usage per month.

[bvbfan]

I *really* disagree. Nor Snappy, nor FlatPak can be future of Linux apps. They are bundle like in OSX, runs in sasndbox, it can be "good" for programmers who produces Windows / Mac executables. FlatPak does not interact with Linux / FOSS apps, it can be used for Skype, Steam etc. closed apps, Linux does not needs them

[starshipeleven]

I *really* disagree. Nor Snappy, nor FlatPak can be future of Linux apps. They are bundle like in OSX, runs in sasndbox, it can be "good" for programmers who produces Windows / Mac executables. FlatPak does not interact with Linux / FOSS apps, it can be used for Skype, Steam etc. closed apps, Linux does not needs them

Linux desktop needs to be able to interact with such crap proprietary stuff to get out of its current "toy desktop operating system" situation, and the best way are these systems, that keep jailed the shit but allow it to be used.

[mike4]

Distros don't need to change anything but 3rd party apps can now simply provide one flatpak for all distros.

[bkor]

FlatPak does not interact with Linux / FOSS apps, it can be used for Skype, Steam etc. closed apps, Linux does not needs them

Various Krita developers already make use of Snap to distribute the latest Snap to existing Ubuntu versions. Same for Flatpak. You're always relying on the distribution to provide stable updates. If there's a new Firefox, I'd like to use it on my distribution without it messing up other packages. The libraries Firefox ships are reused by other packages, it can have an impact.

Flatpak and similar allow this for multiple distributions in one go. Even if there are two, it makes things much more simplified.

[bvbfan]

Linux desktop needs to be able to interact with such crap proprietary stuff to get out of its current "toy desktop operating system" situation, and the best way are these systems, that keep jailed the shit but allow it to be used.

Linux Desktop will never have same usage like Windows or Mac, it is for FOSS lovers, so when you want to use crap closed source software like Skype, Photoshop etc. go for Mac.

[bvbfan]

Various Krita developers already make use of Snap to distribute the latest Snap to existing Ubuntu versions. Same for Flatpak. You're always relying on the distribution to provide stable updates. If there's a new Firefox, I'd like to use it on my distribution without it messing up other packages. The libraries Firefox ships are reused by other packages, it can have an impact.

Flatpak and similar allow this for multiple distributions in one go. Even if there are two, it makes things much more simplified.

This is a test, why you want to use Krita in sandbox, it's FOSS software, it cannot broke you computer.

[bvbfan]

Linux desktop needs to be able to interact with such crap proprietary stuff to get out of its current "toy desktop operating system" situation, and the best way are these systems, that keep jailed the shit but allow it to be used.

If you want to use crap closed source apps go for Mac, Linux it's not your OS.

[mike4]

If you want to use crap closed source apps go for Mac, Linux it's not your OS.

I would not want to boot Windows for X-Plane or steam, no way. Stop trolling.