FFmpeg 7.0 Released With Native VVC Decoding & Multi-Threaded CLI

[Artim]

That's not how anything works. You're proving my point.

right...you are ridiculous

[sophisticles]

The ffmpeg site offers official Deb and RPM packages. Alternatively you can add an unofficial PPA.

They do not such thing.

They link to places where you can download compiled binaries but ffmpeg does not distribute anything except source code.

They did this so they can't be accused of infringing on any patents, in the U.S. the courts have ruled that source code is free speech but binaries could be considered infringing.

[sophisticles]

x264 has been patent free for 20 years. What more do you ask for?

Not true at all.

X264 used lots of patented technology, B-frames, AQ, psy-rd, trellis, do a patent search, all of them were/are patented technology.

What they did was distribute source code, which gas been considered free speech by the courts.

I'm not sure all the H264 patents have expired yet either.

[sophisticles]

Or compile yourself. Although that's quite a pain in the butt.

Yeah, typing "make" is such a hassle.

[Artim]

Why do you think Fedora and OpenSUSE need to work with Cisco (who is a contributor to the patent pool) to provide the users of their distro a working H.264 solution?

Several reasons, none of them are because there are any proven patent claims to x264.

1. There had been claims made against x264, obviously without any success. So some people were scared off
2. Cisco is part of the MPEG LA and guarantees for no claims being made against OpenH264. The Videolan project can't give any such guarantees
3. x264 is GPL 2+, which does make some people uncomfortable because of GPL's viral nature. Only since 2010 it's also allowed to have it under a proprietary license. OpenH264 is under a simplified BSD license
4. OpenH264 first and foremost was made for Firefox for real time encoding for WebRTC. x264 wasn't able to handle this
5. especially the people at Fedora are ridiculously paranoid. To an extent that they removed support for h264 hardware codecs just a few years back, after having them for god knows how many years, just like pretty much every distro and no claims ever being made.

[sophisticles]

Doesn't mean there are any patents on x264.

To the people of this forum, do yourselves a favor and do not listen to this person on any matters related to video.

If you any specific questions, feel free to join us over at the Video Help forums.

[sophisticles]

x264 is a free and open source encoder and there are no patents to worry about on its code.

This is so stupid it hurts.

Just because source code is "open source" does not mean that it can not be infringing an any intellectual property rights, if it is distributed in binary format.

So long as you distribute only code then courts have said that it is free speech and not infringing.

But the compiled version can, and does, infringe on patents.

[Artim]

Yeah, typing "make" is such a hassle.

Good luck compiling ffmpeg with all of those libraries with a single "make". Even their own guide is much longer and that's only including a few libraries: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/CompilationGuide/Ubuntu

[Artim]

To the people of this forum, do yourselves a favor and do not listen to this person on any matters related to video.

If you any specific questions, feel free to join us over at the Video Help forums.

Sure, head over to a forum full of ridiculously incompetent people just as yourself. Have fun, but don't expect any help

[Artim]

This is so stupid it hurts.

Just because source code is "open source" does not mean that it can not be infringing an any intellectual property rights, if it is distributed in binary format.

So long as you distribute only code then courts have said that it is free speech and not infringing.

But the compiled version can, and does, infringe on patents.

The US isn't the world and thankfully the rest of the world usually has better legal systems. Especially when it comes to patents, the US are just a joke.