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Originally posted by mshigorin View PostWe'll celebrate victory.
you state the invasion of a democratic country, the aggression perpetrated against Ukraine, the bombs over civilians... such as victory. This is not victory this is a crime you mask as victory to avoid to shame about it. If you had a bit of honesty you would have defined this crime as atrocity but you are not honest.
Italy 1945: allied troops and partisans free the country from German occupation: Italy will be a democratic republic;
France 1945: allied troops and partisan free the country from German occupation: France will be again a democratic Republic;
Other European countries will be released from German occupation.
South Corea 1953: ONU troops led by general MacArthur free South Corea...
I can continue until our days...
Your mystification is on matching the militar operations made for freeing countries from the militar operations made to subdue countries. Occidental countries based on democracy are not perfect, they have many problems such us corruption, inequalities, lobbies, mafia.. and so on, but crime is institution in dictatorial regimes and autocracies.
Democracy will always prevail because they are based on the perspective of the responsibility of everyone towards the others and to the democratic participation as well.
In any case, your virtual victory is a real defeat.Last edited by MorrisS.; 06 March 2022, 11:47 AM.
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Originally posted by user1 View PostOh yeah, you will certainly celebrate your victory... after the consequences of this war will affect you personally.
Originally posted by MorrisS. View Postyour propaganda is trivial enough
Originally posted by MorrisS. View Postyou state the invasion of a democratic country
The former Ukraine is a mix of tyranny by a clown (look up Zelensky's bio), oligarchy (look up bios of Kolomoisky, Akhmetov or Pinchuk), and colony (the ~40t gold reserve was "made safe" by US troops back in March, 2014, for example).
It is nowhere near even the "democracy" facade -- with the main language the population is speaking being banned from governmental and recently public use (there are "language patrol" squads, look up "шпрехенфюрер"), TV channels and newspapers adventurous enough to be neutral getting closed or destroyed, people getting jailed and killed for their personal views (look up Ruslan Kotsaba or Oles Buzina).
You know nothing, that's why you're so damn sure.
Originally posted by MorrisS. View Postthe aggression perpetrated against Ukraine, the bombs over civilians... such as victory.
Look up at least OSCE data on shellings of Donetsk and Lugansk cities. We knew those are NATO recon officers, but there were things even they couln't pretend not to see.
Putin has warned the former Ukraine's government that an attempt to destroy these cities will result in Ukrainian state destroyed as a such. Poroshenko (actually Waltzman) was a drinker but somewhat smarter than Zelensky -- after all, he's an oligarch who at least made his fortune by manufacturing something (chocolate) and not a total clown; he seems to have heard the warning a few years ago and stopped. Zelensky is a weakling who has no weight; and he's a cocaine narcoman. So he was easier to manipulate into "the West supports you, go fight Russia" and drop that "support" to declarative level as soon as the moron did so.
When Biden and friends deny NATO support to the former Ukraine, they actually have some brain left over: they understand that they will rule radioactive wasteland in half an hour or so. As Putin puts it, "we don't need the world without Russia".
Originally posted by MorrisS. View PostThis is not victory this is a crime you mask as victory to avoid to shame about it.
You were told that truth is false and false is truth. You were careless and weak enough to take that for granted.
You can't base any single one of your statements through anything that's based on your personal experience. And you tell that to a guy who knows what he speaks of exactly from first-hand experience.
Originally posted by MorrisS. View PostIf you had a bit of honesty you would have defined this crime as atrocity but you are not honest.
Originally posted by MorrisS. View PostItaly 1945: allied troops and partisans free the country from German occupation [...]
I can continue until our days...
Then go and learn WHO supported Nazi Germany to rebuild its industry after WW I.
You'll find USA and GB among Nazi supporters more than among Nazi opponents.
Originally posted by MorrisS. View PostYour mystification is on matching the militar operations made for freeing countries from the militar operations made to subdue countries.
You will answer God for those lies. Not me, we're unlikely to meet offline.
Originally posted by MorrisS. View PostOccidental countries based on democracy are not perfect, they have many problems such us corruption, inequalities, lobbies, mafia.. and so on, but crime is institution in dictatorial regimes and autocracies.
Originally posted by MorrisS. View PostDemocracy will always prevail because they are based on the perspective of the responsibility of everyone towards the others and to the democratic participation as well.
You've swallowed the "democracy" meme and ignored the tyranny hook it's used to hide.
You know nothing about the real freedom either. Ask those who went to Russia for soccer back in 2018 -- what exactly did (and did not) they see with their own eyes.
Originally posted by MorrisS. View PostIn any case, your virtual victory is a real defeat.
Grow up. When you'll be starving -- for real, not for hot news -- remember this message of warning from Moscow.
Learn to feed yourself and to live by what you can earn yourself. That will do you a good service.
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To make it clear: Russia doesn't start wars but rather ends those.
We do not wish anyone to suffer -- we've had enough of that during last century and last millennium as well.
But, as Bismark who understood Russia well enough reportedly has put it long ago, "do not try to fool Russians, all of your witty papers will be worth nothing when they come and take back theirs own" (terse version out-of-my-memory).
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Originally posted by mshigorin View PostTo make it clear: Russia doesn't start wars but rather ends those.
We do not wish anyone to suffer -- we've had enough of that during last century and last millennium as well.
But, as Bismark who understood Russia well enough reportedly has put it long ago, "do not try to fool Russians, all of your witty papers will be worth nothing when they come and take back theirs own" (terse version out-of-my-memory).
Ukrainians nazists!? ahahhahahaah groups of fanatic neonazists are everywhere, but then the accusation against a whole country of nazism is one of the most stupid affirmation one individual could state. by facts, there is only one nazist: putin, indeed pan-Germanism was one of the main hitler propaganda.... now putin proposes pan-Russianism. You proof your ignorance.Last edited by MorrisS.; 16 March 2022, 11:09 AM.
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