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[MorrisS.]

To make it clear: Russia doesn't start wars but rather ends those.
We do not wish anyone to suffer -- we've had enough of that during last century and last millennium as well.
But, as Bismark who understood Russia well enough reportedly has put it long ago, "do not try to fool Russians, all of your witty papers will be worth nothing when they come and take back theirs own" (terse version out-of-my-memory).

your declarations are based on propaganda... Zelensky is a Jewish, putin's army bombarded a Jewish mausoleum. Why you use propaganda: to justify the aggression against a real independent Democracy. Ukraine is not a Democracy because I state it is or someone other states it is a Democracy, Ukraine is a democracy because this is the institutional form of State declared in its Constitution... you don't understand the difference between stupid propaganda made by stupid slogans and both events and facts.... here the reason you are a trivial mystifier. 1 second to unmask you. By the way: 1 second to confute your slogan... putin is ending what was began. (how stupid this slogan is). If your assertion is true, so putin should have fight in Donbass... which is Ukrainian territory, instead to invade a whole country; the reality is different, indeed your megalomaniac put an enclave in Ukrainian territory in order to cause a civil war where was involved 100,000 Russian soldiers, so to justify the aggression he is perpetrating now, Your justifications are puerile like your superficial conspiracism.

Ukrainians nazists!? ahahhahahaah groups of fanatic neonazists are everywhere, but then the accusation against a whole country of nazism is one of the most stupid affirmation one individual could state. by facts, there is only one nazist: putin, indeed pan-Germanism was one of the main hitler propaganda.... now putin proposes pan-Russianism. You proof your ignorance.

[mshigorin]

To make it clear: Russia doesn't start wars but rather ends those.
We do not wish anyone to suffer -- we've had enough of that during last century and last millennium as well.
But, as Bismark who understood Russia well enough reportedly has put it long ago, "do not try to fool Russians, all of your witty papers will be worth nothing when they come and take back theirs own" (terse version out-of-my-memory).

[mshigorin]

> We'll celebrate victory.
Ндааа... иногда лучше молчать

Вот и проверьте на себе.

А жизнь, как обычно, расставит всё по местам.

[mshigorin]

Oh yeah, you will certainly celebrate your victory... after the consequences of this war will affect you personally.

They will indeed; in more ways than you can even imagine (given that I actually gre up in Kiev and you know nothing).

your propaganda is trivial enough

Yep; just tell the verifiable truth.

you state the invasion of a democratic country

I wonder if you can name a single democratic country in the world -- in the sense that is proclaimed.

The former Ukraine is a mix of tyranny by a clown (look up Zelensky's bio), oligarchy (look up bios of Kolomoisky, Akhmetov or Pinchuk), and colony (the ~40t gold reserve was "made safe" by US troops back in March, 2014, for example).

It is nowhere near even the "democracy" facade -- with the main language the population is speaking being banned from governmental and recently public use (there are "language patrol" squads, look up "шпрехенфюрер"), TV channels and newspapers adventurous enough to be neutral getting closed or destroyed, people getting jailed and killed for their personal views (look up Ruslan Kotsaba or Oles Buzina).

You know nothing, that's why you're so damn sure.

the aggression perpetrated against Ukraine, the bombs over civilians... such as victory.

Except that this war goes on SINCE 2014 -- and you did not care about it until told to.

Look up at least OSCE data on shellings of Donetsk and Lugansk cities. We knew those are NATO recon officers, but there were things even they couln't pretend not to see.

Putin has warned the former Ukraine's government that an attempt to destroy these cities will result in Ukrainian state destroyed as a such. Poroshenko (actually Waltzman) was a drinker but somewhat smarter than Zelensky -- after all, he's an oligarch who at least made his fortune by manufacturing something (chocolate) and not a total clown; he seems to have heard the warning a few years ago and stopped. Zelensky is a weakling who has no weight; and he's a cocaine narcoman. So he was easier to manipulate into "the West supports you, go fight Russia" and drop that "support" to declarative level as soon as the moron did so.

When Biden and friends deny NATO support to the former Ukraine, they actually have some brain left over: they understand that they will rule radioactive wasteland in half an hour or so. As Putin puts it, "we don't need the world without Russia".

This is not victory this is a crime you mask as victory to avoid to shame about it.

You support neonazis. I don't care a lot how you're going to live with that, but that's exactly what you do.

You were told that truth is false and false is truth. You were careless and weak enough to take that for granted.

You can't base any single one of your statements through anything that's based on your personal experience. And you tell that to a guy who knows what he speaks of exactly from first-hand experience.

If you had a bit of honesty you would have defined this crime as atrocity but you are not honest.

Get that back into your face, man.

Italy 1945: allied troops and partisans free the country from German occupation [...]
I can continue until our days...

Now go and educate yourself about the MAIN battles and losses of that war.
Then go and learn WHO supported Nazi Germany to rebuild its industry after WW I.
You'll find USA and GB among Nazi supporters more than among Nazi opponents.

Your mystification is on matching the militar operations made for freeing countries from the militar operations made to subdue countries.

So when NATO started domesticating Ukraine, it was "freeing"? With population fleeing from that, dying off, and getting shelled for all those years?

You will answer God for those lies. Not me, we're unlikely to meet offline.

Occidental countries based on democracy are not perfect, they have many problems such us corruption, inequalities, lobbies, mafia.. and so on, but crime is institution in dictatorial regimes and autocracies.

Go read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins, don't forget to compare that against what you see in person -- that's critical in this sea of lies.

Democracy will always prevail because they are based on the perspective of the responsibility of everyone towards the others and to the democratic participation as well.

Tell me, how exactly Hillary Clinton was responsible for running state secrets through unsecured private mail server? Or who was held responsible for the death of Jeffrey Epstein, moreso for the broken lives of the teen that he served for Clinton, Gates etc sex affairs?

You've swallowed the "democracy" meme and ignored the tyranny hook it's used to hide.

You know nothing about the real freedom either. Ask those who went to Russia for soccer back in 2018 -- what exactly did (and did not) they see with their own eyes.

In any case, your virtual victory is a real defeat.

Ask the Swedish, French, and German people. Some of those still remember those "virtual wars".

Grow up. When you'll be starving -- for real, not for hot news -- remember this message of warning from Moscow.

Learn to feed yourself and to live by what you can earn yourself. That will do you a good service.

[MorrisS.]

We'll celebrate victory.

your propaganda is trivial enough

you state the invasion of a democratic country, the aggression perpetrated against Ukraine, the bombs over civilians... such as victory. This is not victory this is a crime you mask as victory to avoid to shame about it. If you had a bit of honesty you would have defined this crime as atrocity but you are not honest.
Italy 1945: allied troops and partisans free the country from German occupation: Italy will be a democratic republic;
France 1945: allied troops and partisan free the country from German occupation: France will be again a democratic Republic;
Other European countries will be released from German occupation.
South Corea 1953: ONU troops led by general MacArthur free South Corea...

I can continue until our days...

Your mystification is on matching the militar operations made for freeing countries from the militar operations made to subdue countries. Occidental countries based on democracy are not perfect, they have many problems such us corruption, inequalities, lobbies, mafia.. and so on, but crime is institution in dictatorial regimes and autocracies.
Democracy will always prevail because they are based on the perspective of the responsibility of everyone towards the others and to the democratic participation as well.

In any case, your virtual victory is a real defeat.

[user1]

We'll celebrate victory.

Oh yeah, you will certainly celebrate your victory... after the consequences of this war will affect you personally.

[rox77]

> We'll celebrate victory.
Ндааа... иногда лучше молчать

[mshigorin]

mshigorin
You're celebrating right now, aren't you?

We'll celebrate victory.

After all, Russia's bad joke of a domestic chip called "Elbrus" will finally make a local breakthrough.

That will take more work on different levels -- including technical to political. I wonder why you call it a "bad joke" with zero personal experience, and I'm typing this on an older 8C powering my workstation -- it's just fine with me.

Just too bad that most of your fellow countrymen are going to be pissed once they realize that they are unable to play "S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 - Heart of Chernobyl" developed in the free Ukraine on that abomination of a CPU.

Look up "stalker elbrus" on youtube, lad.

But I digress...

You don't even digress. You tawk what you know nothin'bout, naming places you never been to (and I grew up there).

That "free Ukraine" has followed "free Libya" and "free Iraq". I wish you personally to answer for your own words by ending up in a "free" corner like that -- so that you would finally figure the real value of what you say.

But maybe you'll learn to tell false from truth in some way less hard; God help you find it.

[flecht]

Since I have medical education besides IT one I'm singing as volunteer to help Ukrainians in hospitals.

I believe you meant "signing". Singing might help a bit tho.

What leipero wrote so far reminds me of soviet propaganda about their invasion of Poland on 1939-09-17.

[drakonas777]

Pretty good analysis of absurd Russian propaganda: https://youtu.be/1sgM9AlsPfw

Some standard talking points in addition to "blood and soil" arguments made elsewhere by Russian authoritarian government supporters. Make no mistake, such people as leipero 100% support killing innocent civilians to fight imaginary threat from the west.

I am writing as a citizen of a free Baltic region country (as for now). There is no systemic oppression directed to Russians living here. We do not need "liberators". People here want to be free and want to be partners with the west. They do not want active warfare actions as an alternative to peaceful partnership based on economy benefit from the west. Do not buy in such inhumane bullshit, like the one written by leipero. Please, just think.

OK that is really the last post of mine. Since I have medical education besides IT one I'm singing EDIT:signing as volunteer to help Ukrainians in hospitals.

PS. For Russian speaking:

https://youtu.be/p2gNZrfmcVU

https://youtu.be/BAtov0TvFZk