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  • #11
    Grub is basically superfluous in this modern era. At least it will not work with OpenZFS going forward. Just use any other UEFI bootloader.

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    • #12
      F2FS support sounds pretty cool, it will kill the need for any other file systems in my use, especially considering that it seems to perform well on SSDs. I guess it will be time to recompile coreboot and move all my data to a superior file system.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by scineram View Post
        Grub is basically superfluous in this modern era ... Just use any other UEFI bootloader.
        Except for systems still around that don't have UEFI....

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        • #14
          Originally posted by fuzz View Post
          Except for systems still around that don't have UEFI....
          That's nearly a decade old hardware, btw.

          (I'm also disregarding ARM and such because they don't usually boot GRUB)

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          • #15
            Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
            That's nearly a decade old hardware, btw.
            Yes, my primary workstation is a dual socket Opteron board with a pair of Opteron 6344s. No UEFI, but still serves me well for many things.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by fuzz View Post
              Yes, my primary workstation is a dual socket Opteron board with a pair of Opteron 6344s. No UEFI, but still serves me well for many things.
              And I still maintain a ton of Geode systems around the place with OpenWRT (yes they also use GRUB to boot) that are perfectly fine for basic firewall and IP phone server duties.

              Does not make GRUB any less superfluous in the modern (UEFI) era.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                That's nearly a decade old hardware, btw.

                (I'm also disregarding ARM and such because they don't usually boot GRUB)
                Not every system in the world is EFI, there are also a lot of systems which use OpenFirmware (IEEE1275), for example.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                  And I still maintain a ton of Geode systems around the place with OpenWRT (yes they also use GRUB to boot) that are perfectly fine for basic firewall and IP phone server duties.

                  Does not make GRUB any less superfluous in the modern (UEFI) era.
                  Superfluous: "Being beyond what is required or sufficient."

                  It exists for hardware that is still in use in the "modern" era. Not superfluous.

                  With all the legacy stuff out there, I prefer software that is still in use gets maintained as long as possible -- if only for security patches.

                  America's Cities are Running on Software From the 80's

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by fuzz View Post
                    Superfluous: "Being beyond what is required or sufficient."
                    For modern hardware it is superfluous.

                    It exists for hardware that is still in use in the "modern" era. Not superfluous.
                    For legacy hardware it is not superfluous.
                    But legacy hardware isn't what is most common.

                    I always said USA is a third world country.

                    The issue isn't running 80s software, the issue is gross mismanagement of this software so that it can't be just put in a VM and run on a server, while people use a modern frontend for it.

                    Some more laughs https://arstechnica.com/information-...has-no-backup/

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post
                      For modern hardware it is superfluous.

                      For legacy hardware it is not superfluous.
                      But legacy hardware isn't what is most common.
                      Again, not every modern system uses UEFI, for example POWER, SPARC and IBM z/Series.

                      The issue isn't running 80s software, the issue is gross mismanagement of this software so that it can't be just put in a VM and run on a server, while people use a modern frontend for it.

                      Some more laughs https://arstechnica.com/information-...has-no-backup/
                      Your assumption that anything but UEFI is legacy is simply wrong and uninformed. The rest is pointless ranting.

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