Debian 9.0 Stretch Is Now Frozen

[trifud]

I tried installing Debian 9 yesterday (the "frozen" version) and it ruined my day. Nothing worked - no GUI, no network, strange behavior in the partitioner. When I finally got the thing running, I tried connecting it to our enterprise network and it died completely. No service would start on boot. It is a big disappointment. At the end of the day I just formatted and installed the latest LTS Ubunut which worked like a charm.

I understand that Debian 9 is still in development, however, I have the feeling that Debian is not as rock solid as it used to be. Even in released versions. This is why I have been shifting away from Debian based distros in recent times.

[dungeon]

I tried installing Debian 9 yesterday (the "frozen" version) and it ruined my day. Nothing worked - no GUI, no network, strange behavior in the partitioner.

Hm, which image you used for installation? People usually forget that Debian ships total without blob firmwares by default, so it is quite normal that default does not gonna work for most people

[Sonadow]

I tried installing Debian 9 yesterday (the "frozen" version) and it ruined my day. Nothing worked - no GUI, no network, strange behavior in the partitioner. When I finally got the thing running, I tried connecting it to our enterprise network and it died completely. No service would start on boot. It is a big disappointment. At the end of the day I just formatted and installed the latest LTS Ubunut which worked like a charm.

I understand that Debian 9 is still in development, however, I have the feeling that Debian is not as rock solid as it used to be. Even in released versions. This is why I have been shifting away from Debian based distros in recent times.

Is it really that bad ? I'm about to download the frozen copy and start trying it out in a VM before deciding whether to use it as my main computing platform for 2017.

Hm, which image you used for installation? People usually forget that Debian ships total without blob firmwares by default, so it is quite normal that default does not gonna work for most people

Firmware should not be the issue. Assuming he was on wireless, the wifi failing may be possible, but the GUI should not fail even in the absence of a firmware blob for 3d acceleration. It most cases, it should cause the system to fallback to llvmpipe or swrest mode, but still bring up the GUI regardless.

[oskar-n]

I tried installing Debian 9 yesterday (the "frozen" version) and it ruined my day. Nothing worked - no GUI, no network, strange behavior in the partitioner. When I finally got the thing running, I tried connecting it to our enterprise network and it died completely. No service would start on boot. It is a big disappointment. At the end of the day I just formatted and installed the latest LTS Ubunut which worked like a charm.

I understand that Debian 9 is still in development, however, I have the feeling that Debian is not as rock solid as it used to be. Even in released versions. This is why I have been shifting away from Debian based distros in recent times.

I have been running Debian 9 on a few systems with different hardware since last summer and it has been working great.
What hardware are you using?

[dungeon]

Firmware should not be the issue. Assuming he was on wireless, the wifi failing may be possible, but the GUI should not fail even in the absence of a firmware blob for 3d acceleration.

There was some report here for that rc2 installer even when he use unofficial, it won't load some WiFi firmware it seems:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2.../msg00003.html

But that is nothing, probably just firmwares does not match kernel... rc2 include 4.9 kernel while firmwares are probably for 4.8, for the installer i mean.

It most cases, it should cause the system to fallback to llvmpipe or swrest mode, but still bring up the GUI regardless.

Who knows what might happen when GPU firmwares are missing, something strange most likely Particulary if it is currently some mismatch in the installer. And particulary with that default "i wanna your GPU" Gnome3