The State Of Debian's Paid Long Term Support Project

[dungeon]

Yes, why not. https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.ne.../en/index.html

Ah you meant ON, not FROM... , stupid question gets a stupid answer.

That was figurative question, with point that user knows what he is doing

[dungeon]

Actually the truth is r600g surpassed Catalyst in performance long before radeonsi surpassed.

Truth is somewhere in between AFAIR back in 2004. when RH devs figured out HyperZ for the first time, radeon surpassed fglrx too in some cases But not for long and situation is now similar to that

[starshipeleven]

Nope, that can't play GL4 games of course, because hardware does not support that, blah. blah... sort of what Sandy Bridge iGPUs can do with games, those can do to

I'm pretty sure the GPU power in such old cards isn't enough to play quite a few decent GL3 games too.

Intel iGPUs support up to GL 4.5 in hardware. Are they powerful enough to do any decent 3D game, nope.

Can you play Uncharted 4 on PC?

Yes, why not. https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.ne.../en/index.html

Ah you meant ON, not FROM... , stupid question gets a stupid answer.

[duby229]

the people just mix up the very good results opensource for amd gcn1.2 with the old gen R600.

in my knowelege R600 opensource driver was never on the same level than catalyst.

Actually the truth is r600g surpassed Catalyst in performance long before radeonsi surpassed.

[dungeon]

Ah come on I meant newer games, not indie stuff I can play (much better) on my intel HD4000 too. (of course I'm not talking of Talos Principle)

Nope, that can't play GL4 games of course, because hardware does not support that, blah. blah... sort of what Sandy Bridge iGPUs can do with games, those can do too

Can you play Uncharted 4 on PC?

[starshipeleven]

It can, majority of steam games for linux are small unity3d engine, lately some wants GL3, most wants GL2, some are fine even with GL1, blah blah ... even Talos Principle should work, it needs exactly those as minimum

Ah come on I meant newer games, not indie stuff I can play (much better) on my intel HD4000 too. (of course I'm not talking of Talos Principle)

[dungeon]

Can a HD3xxx run newer games? I doubt it.

It can, majority of steam games for linux are small unity3d engine, lately some wants GL3, most wants GL2, some are fine even with GL1, blah blah ... even Talos Principle should work, it needs exactly those as minimum

... I don't give a fuck, since Bonaire is HD7xxx and we were talking of much older cards.

Well, I said my results what i did couple years ago with r200 (did i ḿentioned that i even lost most of the time playing Angry Birds on r200 ), that is even much much older then HDs... but that HD3xxx i don't have, sorry Currently i have only these GCN 1.1 chips.

Yeah

[starshipeleven]

Yeah when we talking about recentity, i guess you compile that claim in comparison with recent games too

No, still talking of the same old cards in old legacy support that was dropped. Can a HD3xxx run newer games? I doubt it.

I played and compared The Talos Principle with Bonaire and ...

... I don't give a fuck, since Bonaire is HD7xxx and we were talking of much older cards.

edit: And not just with Bonaire card, but with Kaveri and Kabini APUs

still not givjng a fuck, as they are not the cards we were talking about. Might as well pull up NVIDIA.

[dungeon]

in my knowelege R600 opensource driver was never on the same level than catalyst.

Maybe only with 6850/70 cards sort of here and there, as that is what shader compiler developer had at the time But 6950 go down and earlier and s/lower probably even more.

With scalability of fglrx, it is uncomparable.

[dungeon]

Real driver does not, especially vs more recent open source driver.

Yeah when we talking about recentity, i guess you compile that claim in comparison with recent games too

I played and compared The Talos Principle with Bonaire and that is much faster with fglrx... sort of 40% faster then mesa

To not say mention that game menu in that game occasionally does lockup GPU with mesa... i will be more on bugzilla then here if i continue

edit: And not just with Bonaire card, but with Kaveri and Kabini APUs Sort of somewhere 25% diff somewhere 40% diff, but lockup everywhere