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Originally posted by Daktyl198 View PostThey were talking about the initial switch to systemd in debian, not the update to the package. And I'm sure you know how the initial switch to systemd went for arch (horrible. it went horribly)Originally posted by Daktyl198 View PostAh, I avoided Arch like the plague at that time (mostly because it was right when I started getting into Linux and it was a scary monster), so I'm only going on 3rd party info. But 9/10 people I've seen talk about it only has horror stories. The pattern is generally "Man, I love how well systemd works with Arch now, but it was nothing but a crap-ton of breakages when they were first switching over!"
I had no problems switching to systemd on my Arch systems. Couple of config changes here and there, but nothing an Arch user is not expected to be able to handle as part of normal system maintenance.
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Originally posted by jonnor View PostA handful of anecdotes does not support a unqualified statements like "the systemd switch went horrible in Arch". Don't fabricate facts.
I had no problems switching to systemd on my Arch systems. Couple of config changes here and there, but nothing an Arch user is not expected to be able to handle as part of normal system maintenance.
has more than one PC(including smart phones) for every members of the family.
Thit "multi-user desktop switching" is pointed by mr. Lennart Pottering as main reason of creating ConsoleKit and then systemd.
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Originally posted by jonnor View PostA handful of anecdotes does not support a unqualified statements like "the systemd switch went horrible in Arch".
The /usr merge though (particularly /lib -> /usr/lib), now *that* was a bitch . Mostly for people who had custom AUR packages that replaced equivalent packages from the main repos (like infinality patches to freetype/fontconfig/cairo for better font rendering), but even otherwise there were many gotchas. Not doing everything absolutely perfectly meant needing to fix the system from a liveusb. But Arch survived even that.
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Originally posted by edmon View PostThit "multi-user desktop switching" is pointed by mr. Lennart Pottering as main reason of creating ConsoleKit and then systemd.
also, the switch to systemd in Arch was compleatly smooth for me.
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Originally posted by edmon View PostThe man said that his system didn't even boot and system disk is ok , only data disk is faild. Read it again ...nonsense!
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Originally posted by Akka View PostConsolekit is not created by Poettering. As I understands it this sort of switching is not supported by consolkit (atleast it is creating security problems) you need logind.
also, the switch to systemd in Arch was compleatly smooth for me.
Last edited by edmon; 02 December 2014, 02:52 AM.
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Originally posted by edmon View Posthe didn't created it he just kill it
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...ry/000157.htmlUbuntu plans to take over maintainership (more precisely Martin Pitt
from Canonical), to maintain it as long as they still need it, and will
change the name while doing so.
Want to know who really killed it? All those people that whined about consolekit being unmaintained while doing nothing to change that.
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Originally posted by edmon View Posthe didn't created it he just kill it
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...ry/000157.html
"Ubuntu plans to take over maintainership (more precisely Martin Pitt
from Canonical), to maintain it as long as they still need it, and will
change the name while doing so."
source: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...ry/000157.html
Canonical/Ubuntu later dropped the project, and Martin Pitt made "systemd-shim" instead.
Anyone could have forked ConsoleKit and maintained that fork, but no one seemed interested for a couple of years.
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