Cool, better AppArmor integration with systemd would definitely be useful for my server. At the moment it's finicky at best, what with AppArmor requiring a bash script to run before boot to load up all the profiles.
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The Switch To Systemd Will Likely Occur For Ubuntu 15.04
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostCool, better AppArmor integration with systemd would definitely be useful for my server. At the moment it's finicky at best, what with AppArmor requiring a bash script to run before boot to load up all the profiles.
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Originally posted by Baconmon View PostKind of ironic if that stupid debian GR passes, because it will mean that debian will be forced to support upstart compatibility for every single package, even though ubuntu its self (creator of upstart) has decided already to move on to systemd already..
I have a question to the team behind the last GR and its real purpose:
how you think to manage the situation where the maintainer of the package X won't maintain all the init system of the universe at the cost of *his* free time and *his* work, instead of the work and time from who want a different init system to be supported?
What if a lot of devs start to orphan their packages? What's happen then?
I'm sure Ian will be able to destroy debian, let him to complete his mission under the name of "the freedom of the project's suicide".
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Originally posted by uid313 View PostUpstart was technically great.
Unfortunately, it was covered by a CLA (contributor license agreement) which made it not so free in spirit, and kept the community and independent developers away.
So Upstart while technically good, ended up a failure, and never reached its true potential due to being hampered by Canonical.
Had Upstart been more free, then everyone would probably have used that instead of systemd, and the efforts and resources that Canonical spent on Upstart wouldn't have been wasted.
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Originally posted by Candide View PostThanks for publishing this. It's good to know that systemd will be the default in 15.04. I'll take that to mean that users of 14.10 (like myself) probably can avoid systemd until the next upgrade.
So I have until April 2015 to find an alternative to Ubuntu. I have no plans to use systemd, so it seems that my current Ubuntu installation will be my last. Sad, as I've been a long-time Ubuntu user.
FreeBSD 10.1 was just released - I'll be looking at that. Also, I plan to give Gentoo a try. Slackware is a possibility, but it's lack of large package repository makes it a long shot. Of course, I can always hope that Debian will fork.
So, there should be life after systemd. But no doubt that systemd has made my life worse.
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Originally posted by Pajn View PostA home or work station can't be used with SELinux if you don't want to live in constant pain.All opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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