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Mint may have had little choice with the Mir situation
Mint is in an ugly position due to the rapid changes coming in the underlying stack. I had been wondering what they were going to do about the Mir/Wayland situation, and now there is the systemd transition as well.
OK, I have just established in my own machines that Cinnamon and Nemo work just fine over Systemd, which is no surprise because they don't use the init system. Wayland/Mir is entirely another story, and neither MATE nor Cinnamon has been ported to either one. Cinnamon's team should be able to look at the patches used by GNOME to use Wayland, but will have to either backport them to a very old verson of gnome-shell or else port the patches that turn gnome-shell into Cinnamon to a far newer version of gnome-shell. Mate might be easier: port it to GTK 3 and a lot of the job is done, as the window manager is not integrated into the taskbar or the menus. Port it to GTK3 and run it over Weston or another Wayland window manager.
Mint's decision to stick to LTS releases gives them 2 years to deal with this, and lets them avoid hurried work. By the time Ubuntu 15.10 comes out, a lot of the upstream work should be either done, scrapped, or delayed past 16.04, giving Mint a stable target to shoot at.
A bigger problem may or may not exist for those of us running Cinnamon in Ubuntu from PPA, and following either rolling releases or the alpha releases (as I do). The questions will be how long does X stay in repo or in the xorg-edgers PPA, and will Cinnamon build against newer versions of Ubuntu all the way through. In a real pinch, I suppose Cinnamon and all its libraries could be made into a "zero install" local folder package like the meltytech git builds of kdenlive. These usually work for top level apps on a whole cycle from one LTS to the next and sometimes more. This would work so long as Xorg remains installable, or locally installable. Would be an interesting use of the new "clickinstall" system to be sure-a whole DE installed locally or maybe in /usr/local.
It will be interesting to see what happens in Cinnamon PPA's, enough has been forked that it should work so long as clutter works with it and X is available. Also, any ports to Wayland would show up here, I would guess during the 16.04 alpha runup,
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Originally posted by Scimmia View PostGreat, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.
What distro to I recommend to newbies now?
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Probably I'll hang with this latest LTS thanks to the new policies of updating some other software appart from the kernel.
And adding PPA's shouldn't be a problem, I'm already doing it with some software packages.
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Originally posted by Scimmia View PostGreat, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.
What distro to I recommend to newbies now?
And if they really want a piece of softwares updated version, I think adding a ppa is not that hard.
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Originally posted by Scimmia View PostGreat, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.
What distro to I recommend to newbies now?
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Have a look here:
http://distrowatch.com/
Personally I don't trust small distros much, hence you might use:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/leopardflower/
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Great, now Mint is going to be out of date nearly to the point of being useless.
What distro to I recommend to newbies now?
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