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Fenrus Linux: A Distro For Performance, Developers
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Originally posted by Cyborg16 View PostWhy bother with the subtraction? It doesn't really make the graphs any easier to read. In fact, why not put the result (fenrus's score/best other score) on a log scale? Then some of the results with large changes like noise-level-1.1.0 would be easier to read.
A lot of people really do not like graphs without the zero axis there; and if the axis would have to always span 0 - 100 then it becomes useless to see small changes.
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Originally posted by chrisb View PostAre the little hover-dots the test results on Fenrus as someone suggested above? If so, how come the plotted line is smooth? ie. hover on systemd-boot-kernel and you see one single performance jump around Feb 18th or so, but the curve rises up gradually over 2 weeks as if performance was slowly changing every day. It looks like a line of best fit? The problem with that is it doesn't show change very well - in these kind of metrics change tends to be instant rather than gradual.
So systemd-boot-userspace really is 300 times faster on Fenrus? And systemd-boot-total is 70 times faster?
Which distributions are you currently testing? Would it be possible to do some graphs directly comparing them, eg. plotting Fenrus vs Ubuntu vs Fedora vs Gentoo, so we can see what the "best of the rest" actually is, and which distributions are best for performance?
I am curious if there really are significant differences and potential gains to be made, because most benchmarks I have seen suggest there is little real difference between competing modern distros. But this could be because the benchmarks are designed to be tests of the hardware (bound by CPU, GPU, disk IO etc.) rather than tests of distributions.
I've been trying various fit functions and am still struggling with finding something sensible that deals with steps well, while still filtering out some of the noise.
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waste of time
this thing is as alpha as alpha gets
why the fuck is it being promoted in phoronix since it's like 2 years away from being anything decent?
a better question
why is intel wasting time experimenting with distros and packages, should be working on the drivers that's what they should be doing, bunch of good for nothings, hey ive me 70% of thw windows driver performance and I won't complain no more
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Originally posted by Pallidus View Postwaste of time
this thing is as alpha as alpha gets
why the fuck is it being promoted in phoronix since it's like 2 years away from being anything decent?
a better question
why is intel wasting time experimenting with distros and packages, should be working on the drivers that's what they should be doing, bunch of good for nothings, hey ive me 70% of thw windows driver performance and I won't complain no more
you did not read the website though since this is not an Intel project.
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Performance a la Intel
Originally posted by fenrus View Postyeah I'll try to clarify the page tonight, clearly it's not well done right/clear enough right now; thanks for the feedback.
let me give a specific (but made up) example.
Say some test gives frames-per-second (e.g. a higher-is-better test).
And lets say, Fedora 17 is the best-of-the-rest at 50 frames per second.
If Fenrus Linux would also get 100 FPS, the score would thus be 200%, however, for the purpose of showing a delta, 100% is subtracted (hence the "delta") and the score will 'only' be "100%" in the graph.
If Fenrus Linux would get 25 FPS, the score would be 50%, but the delta would be 50% - 100% = -50% in the graph.
Well, your combination of a percentage with a baseline has a very interesting result for a distro marketed "for performance". If Fenrus is twice faster than distro B then the graph reads 100%, but if the distro B is twice faster than Fenrus the graph reads -50% (instead of -100%).
This means that average Joe will be reading on the graphs that Fenrus is, wow!, 100% faster regarding some test but only a 50% slower regarding another test, and he will be taking Fenrus to be a much faster distro when the reality would be that Fenrus and the other distro are on pair 2:1 vs 1:2 regarding both tests.Last edited by juanrga; 25 March 2013, 07:51 PM.
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