What's Coming Up For Ubuntu 11.10 & The Summit

[Veerappan]

It's also very nice to be able to use the exact same email client and interface across Windows (7 mostly), Mac OS, Solaris, and Linux. I used to use a combination of Outlook 2007, Apple Mail, and Evolution. Combining to a single application with IMAP, synced calendar, and shared address book was a major improvement.

[locovaca]

Well, that's what Thunderbird does too.

No, I'm pretty sure Thunderbird uses POP/IMAP. Evolution uses MAPI, the native Exchange/Outlook protocol.

http://kb.mozillazine.org/MAPI_Support

[madjr]

the decision for dropping evolution, would be to finally separate calendar events from it and add them to the clock applet itself.

i have always wanted to use events, but didnt want/need evolution.

if you still want to use evolution, you can reinstall it.

[madjr]

it might be a good idea if they went over the 700mb limit already.

i think that is holding them back. If making the best OS they can takes a little more than 700mb (1gb) then they should do it.

maybe release a smaller barebones version for those that still want it to fit a cd (like opensuse does).

and with their Own unity GUI, they are NOT Dependant so much on gnome releases anymore and can expand the 6 months schedule to 7 or 8 months if necessary (release when polished and ready !!!)

also, one thing i would like to see is BTRFS soon ;/

ps. stop trolling about mono, they are not going to get rid of it for a good while.

[NomadDemon]

thats bad

[locovaca]

it might be a good idea if they went over the 700mb limit already.

i think that is holding them back. If making the best OS they can takes a little more than 700mb (1gb) then they should do it.

maybe release a smaller barebones version for those that still want it to fit a cd (like opensuse does).

and with their Own unity GUI, they are NOT Dependant so much on gnome releases anymore and can expand the 6 months schedule to 7 or 8 months if necessary (release when polished and ready !!!)

also, one thing i would like to see is BTRFS soon ;/

ps. stop trolling about mono, they are not going to get rid of it for a good while.

It'd be nice if someone did a survey of if people are burning ISOs anymore. Half my machines don't even have an optical drive and all of my installs occur via TFTP/NFS or a USB stick. With the number of smaller laptops forgoing optical drives and people just preferring usb sticks speed and versatility the 700 meg limit seems a little more unnecessary, but I have no evidence for that.

[md1032]

I really hope they fix the menu bar placement in Unity to at least have an option to put it back in the windows. Focus-follows-mouse plus Unity is completely unusable right now.

[kraftman]

ps. stop trolling about mono, they are not going to get rid of it for a good while.

I wasn't be so sure. They'll start shipping Qt applications and Qt players are far better than crappy banshee.

[madjr]

I wasn't be so sure. They'll start shipping Qt applications and Qt players are far better than crappy banshee.

example?

and how well do they integrate with my gtk theme, so i can try them now.

also am liking banshee more than rhythmbox and integration with miro and other stuff is very nice

[Jonno]

and how well do they integrate with my gtk theme, so i can try them now.

Perfectly, as all Qt applications are native Gtk+ applications (when run in a Gtk+ environment).

Qt4 GUI is not a GUI toolkit, but a GUI toolkit wrapper, not unlike gtkmm or Gtk# . Unlike gtkmm and Gtk# , however, it supports using many different toolkits as a backend, including Gtk+, win32, cacao and carbon. It also includes a simple themeable toolkit for situations when no other toolkit is available (such as for Qt/embedded). KDE provides some enhancements to the built in toolkit (such as improved file and print dialogues) as well as a quite good theme (Oxygen), so most KDE centric distros, including Kubuntu, configures that as the default. However, most distros, including Ubuntu, uses the Gtk+ backend by default when inside a GNOME session, so if you are a GNOME user and launches a qt application you should not notice any difference at all.

Note: Some of the KDE enhancements to Qt does not play well with the Gtk+ backend (or Win32 backend for that matter), so some KDE applications might misbehave slightly when run in GNOME, but will generally behave much better than GNOME applications running in KDE.