Ubuntu is NOT a part of community

[bridgman]

re: Canonical and Google, I thought Google was paying, not Canonical :

http://blog.canonical.com/?p=294

[deanjo]

re: Canonical and Google, I thought Google was paying, not Canonical :

http://blog.canonical.com/?p=294

So Canonical only develops for paying customers instead of sending items upstream for the good of all.

[rbmorse]

To what part of Ubuntu's source do you not have access?

[deanjo]

To what part of Ubuntu's source do you not have access?

A good community commits it's fixes to the upstream projects as well rather then sitting on them and relying on someone else to seek them out and pull them in.

[next9]

re: Canonical and Google, I thought Google was paying, not Canonical :

http://blog.canonical.com/?p=294

This seems even worse. We contribute only if someone else pay.

[some-guy]

A good community commits it's fixes to the upstream projects as well rather then sitting on them and relying on someone else to seek them out and pull them in.

Don't forget about ubuntuone, and launchpad was just recently open-sourced (afaik some of it is still proprietary)

[deanjo]

Don't forget about ubuntuone, and launchpad was just recently open-sourced (afaik some of it is still proprietary)

Both of which are pretty much ubuntu specific vs something like the openSUSE build service which allows building of packages for pretty much any mainstream distro and doesn't give a rats ass what distro you use at home.

http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service/supported_build_targets

[BlackStar]

Both of which are pretty much ubuntu specific vs something like the openSUSE build service which allows building of packages for pretty much any mainstream distro and doesn't give a rats ass what distro you use at home.

http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service..._build_targets

Launchpad is a project hosting service (like Sourceforge), not a build service. It is also the best thing since sliced bread in the area of project hosting: it is tight, fast and its features are out of this world (have you seen the translation service for projects? You can login and start translating pretty any project you like, just like that!)

Also this doesn't provide patches upstream is pretty much bullshit. Take a look at http://patches.ubuntu.com/ and tell me they are keeping the patches to themselves. Take a look at any bug report, I dare you. They coordinate with upstream as closely as they can and actually *reject* a large number of patches to avoid diverging from upstream too much.

[deanjo]

Launchpad is a project hosting service (like Sourceforge), not a build service.

Launchpad is a software collaboration platform that provides:

• Bug tracking
• Code hosting using Bazaar
• Code reviews
• Ubuntu package building and hosting
• Translations
• Mailing lists
• Answer tracking and FAQs
• Specification tracking

Funny they advertise that capability. Again they commit to debian and rely on them to send them upstream projects. Nothing like passing the buck.

[next9]

Launchpad is a project hosting service (like Sourceforge), not a build service.

Also this doesn't provide patches upstream is pretty much bullshit. Take a look at http://patches.ubuntu.com/

Oh Yeah. Launchpad is not a buildservice, although it builds packages for ubuntu (only ubuntu) and Debian is upstream.

Characteristic demagogy of ubuntu fan