Red Hat Changing How They Handle Their Minor Release Betas

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Red Hat Changing How They Handle Their Minor Release Betas

Red Hat announced today some changes to how they handle their beta releases for minor updates to Red Hat Enterprise Linux...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Red-Hat-Changes-Beta-Timing

[anarki2]

Does anyone still care?

[spicfoo]

Does anyone still care?

Of course they do. Red Hat has a multi billion dollar revenue per quarter with double digit growth and is a major player in the Linux ecosystem. Don't confuse Phoronix shit posters with paying enterprise customers.

[Malsabku]

Did anyone test if the CentOS Stream 10 ISOs work?
Index of /stream-10/development/latest-CentOS-Stream/compose/BaseOS/x86_64/iso

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

Did anyone test if the CentOS Stream 10 ISOs work?
Index of /stream-10/development/latest-CentOS-Stream/compose/BaseOS/x86_64/iso

Why wouldn't they (outside of the usual potential for a specific daily or whenever dev build to have an issue)? I don't think they'd bother building the ISOs if they didn't intend for them to work.

[andyprough]

Why wouldn't they (outside of the usual potential for a specific daily or whenever dev build to have an issue)? I don't think they'd bother building the ISOs if they didn't intend for them to work.

If you haven't tested them then the correct answer would be "no", rather than shooting at the person who asked if they are working.

[You-]

Did anyone test if the CentOS Stream 10 ISOs work?
Index of /stream-10/development/latest-CentOS-Stream/compose/BaseOS/x86_64/iso

No, I think they are too early to test yet for anyone outside those working on bringing up Centos stream 10.

I think it only diverged from Fedora rawhide a few days ago and will probably take some time to stabilise. i didnt even realise they would be at the installable stage yet, so i might test something soon (not for a few weeks or months though).

(as a total outsider) I expect the final release to be in Spring 2025, with beta say around November this year.

[slalomsk8er]

Does anyone still care?

No, I just ordered my contractors to rebuild more of their Ansible roles for Debian as our default server image is Debian and I will from this point on only add more Debian servers, as long as I have a choice. This decision will cost us about 1 day of extra work, we have to pay for, and the budget is very tight this year!

Currently, the only paper cut on Debian is the long wait or even timeout for sudo, as our servers are joined to an Active Directory, and I haven't figured out why this isn't happening with the remaining RHEL-based systems.

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

If you haven't tested them then the correct answer would be "no", rather than shooting at the person who asked if they are working.

I get what you are saying and generally agree, but I think there's a bit more nuance here. The only image currently available is from today, so the chances are approaching 0% that anyone who comments in this forum has tested it. If the builds are daily, what would an answer like "I tested one two weeks ago and it didn't work" really mean to the one asking the question? Maybe that particular build had a problem, but > 90% of the time they are fine. My point was mainly that with bleeding edge dev builds, it's probably more useful to just try it yourself. And I acknowledge a huge caveat there for people with slow / metered / expensive internet connections where downloading a large ISO just to screw around with isn't feasible.

[aviallon]

No, I just ordered my contractors to rebuild more of their Ansible roles for Debian as our default server image is Debian and I will from this point on only add more Debian servers, as long as I have a choice. This decision will cost us about 1 day of extra work, we have to pay for, and the budget is very tight this year!

Currently, the only paper cut on Debian is the long wait or even timeout for sudo, as our servers are joined to an Active Directory, and I haven't figured out why this isn't happening with the remaining RHEL-based systems.

sssd caching probably?