Debian GNU/Hurd 2023 Released

[Nth_man]

I happen to be one of those 3 users. I'm using it on a really old T43. Using Emacs in the console...

What other programs do you use?

[ayumu]

Said it before, but the most confusing thing about HURD to me isn't that people develop for an obscure useless hobby OS, it's that they develop specifically for HURD.
SerenityOS, ReactOS, Redox, Haiku, even TempleOS, they all make sense in some way or another, have some purpose. HURD is probably the dictionary definition of a useless OS. It's not fulfilling any purpose, not usable anywhere, doesn't even really have a community. I think most people deranged enough to work on it have just moved on to Linux-libre.

It is a containment project, so that its devs aren't disturbing other, more serious, projects.

In operating system design, we've gone a long way since Mach and HURD.

Genode's architecture is the way to go, whereas Managarm is a nice "Linux, but better architected" system.

[AlanSMac]

Thousands gaming on GNU/Linux? Maybe. On Proton? Possibly. With Xbox controllers? I don't believe you.

I think you'd be surprised. The Steam Deck has sold millions. Hell I play mine with a Google Stadia controller and so do my friends. Bet you weren't expecting to hear that!

[waxhead]

Hurd is even more stupid than FreeBSD.

We already got Linux, just focus on that...

Following your (lack of) logic everyone should be using Windows...

[DrLecter]

they chose the wrong microkernel

[andyprough]

Genode's architecture is the way to go, whereas Managarm is a nice "Linux, but better architected" system.

This managarm thing looks pretty cool, and it's got some hardware support and some support for a few typical GNU/Linux packages. And some qemu images. Very interesting, thank you for mentioning it.

[emblemparade]

I think they should skip AMD64 and go straight to RISC-V. A free kernel on free hardware seems to fit their goals best. And by the time their kernel is usable we'll also have good RISC-V hardware. (We'll also be living in Martian colonies...)

[idrisz19]

they're just trying to achieve what they believe in.

you might not share the same beliefs, but you should however appreciate their willfulness (I'm not 100% sure this is the correct English term, but I hope you get the idea)

I agree, and "tenacity", "audacity", and "resolve" would be excellent words to add to your vocabulary.

[mercster]

I agree, and "tenacity", "audacity", and "resolve" would be excellent words to add to your vocabulary.

Gumption!

[darkonix]

I think they should skip AMD64 and go straight to RISC-V. A free kernel on free hardware seems to fit their goals best. And by the time their kernel is usable we'll also have good RISC-V hardware. (We'll also be living in Martian colonies...)

More likely the human race will have self extincted. But we hope that AIs will continue developing Hurd with an 1.0 release ready sometime in the 25 century.