Windows 11 vs. Ubuntu Linux Performance Is Very Close On The AMD Ryzen 9 7950X

[phuclv]

Win 11 got lucky, if michael had tested large file copy ...

do you know what mean/average are about? Winning in a test in 100+ doesn't change the final result significantly in any way. And copying large files isn't a typical use case anyway. Does everyone copy big files everyday? Even copying small files may not be common among typical users that only do web browsing at home

[phuclv]

Rule 0 of Linux benchmarking:
Use the performance governor, unless you want to measure power related stuff...

if that's the case then you'll also need to disable CPU scaling on Windows

[mdedetrich]

Windows will never reach Linux performance. It would have to be rewritten completely. There's something strange going on in above tests. I bet the final Linux 6.1 would wipe the floor with Windows as usual.

I love the sweet smell of denial when Linux apologists cannot handle the fact that Linux isn't perfect and hence cannot beat Windows in everything.

[Jakob]

So it's either that Ubuntu is that bad or Windows that good!
I think it's the first one.

that's a bad news

[NeoMorpheus]

Great stuff Michael, thanks.

Question, are you planning in doing a follow up article but with games?

If yes, would you be using Ubuntu or HoloISO?

[Anux]

Lets be real, anyone arguing privacy with Windows isn't doing anything remotely interesting enough for anyone to care.

Strange, so why is every one after such data like it's the new gold rush? Why are companys paying for such data? Why would the NSA have a shitload of amazon servers to save and analyse all private data they can get from US citizens and the rest of the world if that is totally uninteresting?

Microsoft certainly doesn't allow free-access from anyone to your information.

Certainly not, they want to make money after all.

Meanwhile most people arguing this are typing it from Google Chrome, ISP DNS and/or no DoH, Secure Boot disabled, IOMMU disabled or passthrough, no MAC (like most Arch users), no memory encryption (requires a kernel option for AMD unless you're relying on the assumption that TSME is working), mitigations=off, cloud password managers, saving passwords and card info to their browser keycain, and other nonsense that's notably less-secure than what Windows presents at default. I guarantee most people running Linux with TPM2 don't put in any effort in to make the TPM even do anything, whereas it gets attested and used for security out-the-box on Windows.

You know a lot of technologies that are security related but you fail to understand what they do and how they are used. Non of that stuff helps you against your operating system supplier spying on your every move.

What do people who argue "privacy" with Windows actually mean?

Typically what every one means who's talking about privacy, isn't this a commonly accepted term? You can check this stuff on wikipedia if its really necessary.

Anyone else who cares about privacy that deeply knows they should be on Tails and not making a point about it.

He whose name shall not be spoken!

[mdedetrich]

Is there still a way to install Win 11 without a MS-account? I couldn't get around that, on Win 10 you could just disconnect the LAN and it was fine.

There is a non official way to hack it but I can't remember what it is (or even if it still works for that matter).

[Anux]

Yes to the first question. You use a locked account to bypass the requirement. If you enter for example (till Microsoft blocks this route anyway) [email protected] it will error with a locked account (too many password failures) and drop you to a local account creation screen.

THX, I'll try that next time I have a Win 11 PC to fool around.

A religious argument or reply is one that ignores given facts to state unproven or factually refuted opinion.

Since my argument is not refuted or unproven you kind of rushed over your head with those accusations. But you should also know that it was just a sarcastic comment, I like to poke at open wounds sometimes.

On the other hand, there are factual privacy & legal arguments to be made about wanting or requiring local & on prem accounts instead of Microsoft's wish for everyone to use Microsoft cloud logins for Windows 11.

That's strange, even if you have a local account, as long as you are connected to the net you don't know what the closed source OS is sending to MS. There is "telemetry" or lets call it more accurate "unknown encrypted data" send to MS servers regularly. Its also not easy to block if you still want to get "security updates" of which you either can't know what they are changing in your system.

And no, me not wanting an MS account is not religous, its ideological.

though it's germane for discussion of privacy issues (since it's still possible to install 10 with a local account profile, and hopefully it will remain so. If they try to force it on 10 like they have in 11 I will be re-evaluating my options.

That becomes irrelevant in 2025 when you get no more updates for win 10, no need for them to force an MS account there.

Also, just as a side note, have you checked to be sure you don't have driver packages also phoning home to their various manufacturers?

Yeah its best to not do any security or privacy sensitive stuff on Win, for a pure gaming plattform I think it's fine. Maybe if they see there are still people playing dragon age origins and KOTOR they start to make good games again.

Also I have to deal with Win 10 and in the near future with 11 at work, so I need to stay on the edge and know the tricks and quirks to keep the most stress away from me.

[HEL88]

Windows 11 vs. Ubuntu Linux Performance Is Very Close

As usual. But linux fanboys despite the results will still claim that windows is very slow as a turtle and penguin has the power of a cheetah .

[Danielsan]

So it's either that Ubuntu is that bad or Windows that good!
I think it's the first one.

I read this more like Ubuntu has became bloated like Windows...