Pop!_OS 22.04 Benchmarks On The Threadripper-Powered System76 Thelio Major

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Pop!_OS 22.04 Benchmarks On The Threadripper-Powered System76 Thelio Major

At the end of April was the release of System76's Pop!_OS 22.04 based on Ubuntu 22.04 but with a variety of improvements from numerous graphical/desktop enhancements down to other changes like their scheduler work and more. For those currently on Pop!_OS 21.10 and wondering about the performance implications, here are some benchmarks showing the performance difference on the same hardware.

https://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=31108

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[Danny3]

If only this distro would have a version with KDE Plasma!

[sinepgib]

It would be very interesting to see a comparison with Ubuntu 22.04, as it's based on it. That way we can judge whether there are any performance improvements (or even hits) from the PopOS! specific changes.

[skeevy420]

If only this distro would have a version with KDE Plasma!

Why? The biggest point of PopOS is their tiling desktop and all the goodness that comes from them being able to focus on their desktop and their technologies. Adding yet another desktop, doesn't matter what desktop, takes away from that singular focus and will make them become Manjaro.

I use Manjaro KDE and the crappiest part of Manjaro is they focus on GNOME, KDE, and XFCE. By supporting more than one desktop Manjaro loses the synergy that PopOS has so the best we end up with are programs using with similar looking themes...until you go to update your Plasma install and you get to use a GTK/GNOME looking program and you feel out of place because you realize that you're using the Afterthought Desktop Environment.

PopOS with KDE would be like that. We'd get some themes that make Plasma have the same color schemes as their PopOS Shell, but the second you use a tool from the PopOS team you'll feel out of place and realize that you're using the Afterthought Desktop Environment.

Personally, I'd like it if KWin or whatever picked up some of their scheduler work and know to give foreground and background windows their respective priorities.

[CochainComplex]

Why? The biggest point of PopOS is their tiling desktop and all the goodness that comes from them being able to focus on their desktop and their technologies. Adding yet another desktop, doesn't matter what desktop, takes away from that singular focus and will make them become Manjaro.

I use Manjaro KDE and the crappiest part of Manjaro is they focus on GNOME, KDE, and XFCE. By supporting more than one desktop Manjaro loses the synergy that PopOS has so the best we end up with are programs using with similar looking themes...until you go to update your Plasma install and you get to use a GTK/GNOME looking program and you feel out of place because you realize that you're using the Afterthought Desktop Environment.

PopOS with KDE would be like that. We'd get some themes that make Plasma have the same color schemes as their PopOS Shell, but the second you use a tool from the PopOS team you'll feel out of place and realize that you're using the Afterthought Desktop Environment.

Personally, I'd like it if KWin or whatever picked up some of their scheduler work and know to give foreground and background windows their respective priorities.

Its true - PopOS workflow is tied to the Gnome Shell or lets say their fork Cosmiq. If they would loose their focus as you have mentioned the distro will loose quality.

[Vistaus]

Its true - PopOS workflow is tied to the Gnome Shell or lets say their fork Cosmiq. If they would loose their focus as you have mentioned the distro will loose quality.

On the other hand: a lot of people in the Linux community dislike all of the desktop environment forks and GNOME customizations and stuff. By using KDE Plasma, they would use an already customizable desktop and without the need to fork anything.

[Vistaus]

Regarding Pop_OS KDE: at least someone has been unofficially working on a tighter integration: https://github.com/maxiberta/kwin-sy...er-integration

[brucethemoose]

On the other hand: a lot of people in the Linux community dislike all of the desktop environment forks and GNOME customizations and stuff. By using KDE Plasma, they would use an already customizable desktop and without the need to fork anything.

Yeah. Even if they are determined to fork for control reasons, they could make a "lighter" plasma fork where most of their development is upstreamed.


But I think System76 is too heavily invested in their DE to switch.

[Artim]

On the other hand: a lot of people in the Linux community dislike all of the desktop environment forks and GNOME customizations and stuff. By using KDE Plasma, they would use an already customizable desktop and without the need to fork anything.

Don't worry, they are already working hard on potentially making things even worse. They are currently writing their own DE which only seems to look like GNOME. But it looks like that it won't even support its extensions. And I'm not sure if they will also switch to libadwaita or of they'll stick to GTK3 (and what long term consequences will have) or whatever they'll use.