Fedora 34 To Ship An ISO With The i3 Window Manager

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Fedora 34 To Ship An ISO With The i3 Window Manager

While the i3 window manager has been around for more than a decade, it's taken until now for an i3 window manager spin of Fedora to be solicited and approved...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-34-i3-Spin

[Mani]

I wonder why they chose i3 over sway, I had both running and sway has a much much better user experience, no tearing, a few useful additions like the stash and IMO far better default shortcuts 🤷♂️

[CochainComplex]

I wonder why they chose i3 over sway, I had both running and sway has a much much better user experience, no tearing, a few useful additions like the stash and IMO far better default shortcuts 🤷♂️

Not sure but maybe i3 is more popular?

[CommunityMember]

I wonder why they chose i3 over sway,

The i3 spin happened mostly because there were some individuals motivated to create an i3 SIG and do the work required to create a Fedora spin. At least to this point the sway SIG has not decided to resource creating a spin. If you want Fedora to have a swap spin you should likely join the swag SIG and start to work the process.

[Mani]

Nevermind, I honestly don't see the benefit in a spin with just a window manager over no window manager at all and installing it myself, its different to full blown desktops with supplementary programs though (albeit I prefer to choose my programs myself).

What made me wondering was, I had my first experience with tiling window managers through sway in lock-down and was pretty pleased with it, when I came back I installed i3 on my (Nvidia powered) workstation and was quite underwhelmed...

[timofonic]

Sway FTW!!!

[royce]

There's not a lot of future for i3 going forward, seeing as X11 is on the out and sway is not only i3 config compatible, but basically a better i3 already running on wayland.

[royce]

The ecosystem of little apps you use as building blocks is of course more mature in X11 compositors, but their wayland equivalents are definitely catching up.

[Hi-Angel]

I wonder why they chose i3 over sway, I had both running and sway has a much much better user experience, no tearing, a few useful additions like the stash and IMO far better default shortcuts 🤷♂️

Until recently a show-stopper of mine was lack of ability to keep keyboard layout per window. From my experience, this feature seems to be important to some countries. I'm personally Russian; and then also French folks I think need this feature. The workflow is that I have a couple of chats opened where I talk in russian, and rarely need english. And then there are browser/editor/terminal where I always use english. And it is pretty annoying to have to switch layout all the time.

Btw, related to this is a funny story. I actually contributed support for per-window layout to sway. Over time it finally got reviewed, but then there was one dude, who for some reason did not like it. What he did was he opened a separate PR to implement the feature with a plugin. That's okay, I'm fine with dropping my code. If someone takes away responsibility for feature, that's an upside to me. So, I left a few comments to his PR, and he's like freaked out! Like, as if I was insulting him 😄 I honestly don't know. I politely explained I didn't mean anything mean, to no avail, I'm a bad guy, etc. In retrospective, since I am bad in social interactions and might have missed out something, I asked a friend who works as a psychotherapist to look at this thread and tell if I really was missing something. She said, she also did not understand what's wrong. Oh, well.

Then later what happened is that Sway maintainer/creator Sir.Cmpwn resolved all problems. Do you know how? He locked up both our PRs and the issue about per-window keyboard layout 😂😂😂 Geez.

Anyway, as of recent there's another thing I would miss a lot if I ever migrate to Sway: I'm using KDE with i3, and I love the KDE panel with stuff like screen light and sound being automatically bound to correct keys without me doing anything, and the overall visual style. Yeah, I love fancies ☺

[Calinou]

and then also French folks I think need this feature

As a native French speaker, switching keyboard layouts to write English isn't nearly as common since you can write perfect English on an AZERTY keyboard. (The opposite isn't true; you can't write "proper" French with accents on an US QWERTY keyboard.)

There are some use cases for switching to QWERTY on Linux (such as some old/uncooperative games not using physical key codes and not having remappable keys, like Among Us). That said, I think it's fine to switch globally using a hotkey since it's an uncommon enough use case.