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  • #11
    Hopefully CentOS Stream and its repositories can be modernized to a point where it will be usable as a decent desktop distribution.

    And that means bringing Plasma back, because I install both Gnome and Plasma to account for all possible dependencies in running GTK3, Qt5, Gnome and KDE applications.

    Typical example includes a preference for Okular, which tears Evince a new asshole and wipes the floor with it for PDFs.
    Last edited by Sonadow; 08 December 2020, 11:09 AM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
      Hopefully CentOS Stream and its repositories can be modernized to a point where it will be usable as a decent desktop distribution.
      There is Fedora for that

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      • #13
        The main issue is that so called "stable" distro's are not at all stable... Exactly how many Ubuntus are there? Redhats? SuSe's? etc... So called stable distributions are -THE-worst cause of fragmentation that exists -anywhere- in -any- software.

        The -entire- ecosystem that revolves around linux is rolling release. To support so many "stable" distro's means backporting to a dozen targets or more and that's not stable. Ask any company that has to support hardware on linux...
        Last edited by duby229; 08 December 2020, 11:13 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by duby229 View Post

          Rhel 8 still exists, you can still download it and use it free of charge just like always. Nothing has changed in that regard.
          that is not the same thing. I believe you have to register every system before being able to use it.
          how do you do with containers and with VMs automatically spawned to test systems?

          probably there will be a way, but still a concern.

          also, users workstation running CentOS will probably be a problem (altough, stream might be reasonably stable for such usage)

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          • #15
            From the blog announcement, I understand that CentOS 7 will be supported until its end date, but CentOS 8 will not be supported, so we will loose all the support we expected to have for the next 7-8 years or so. Support for CentOS dies in 2021.

            Yes it will remain free but unsupported and will receive no updates, so essentially its dead and buried.

            Fedora is not a good alternative, nobody wants to upgrade 1000+ servers every 6 months and nobody wants to run a bleedingedge system on production servers.

            Maybe we should consider a switch to *BSD family of operating systems, many apps are interchangeable...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
              Hopefully CentOS Stream and its repositories can be modernized to a point where it will be usable as a decent desktop distribution.

              And that means bringing Plasma back, because I install both Gnome and Plasma to account for all possible dependencies in running GTK3, Qt5, Gnome and KDE applications.

              Typical example includes a preference for Okular, which tears Evince a new asshole and wipes the floor with it for PDFs.
              That's not what is going to happen, by what can be read in the blog CentOS Stream X will just become kind of Debian Unstable of RHEL X, this is: if you're running CentOS Stream 8 now you will get the updates from the next RHEL point release (IE: 8.4) ahead of RHEL itself.

              This means that you get to be the beta tester of the packages on the next RHEL point release if you run CentOS.

              Still not sure if this is a good move or not, which doesn't inspire much confidence.

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              • #17
                If Ubuntu is clever they can benefit greatly from this and gain lots of mind-share.

                Same for Debian.

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                • #18
                  It's not unfortunate, it's a feature. Those looking for stability can avoid having to go through upgrades, as CentOS-Stream is a rolling release.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by bash2bash View Post
                    From the blog announcement, I understand that CentOS 7 will be supported until its end date, but CentOS 8 will not be supported, so we will loose all the support we expected to have for the next 7-8 years or so. Support for CentOS dies in 2021.

                    Yes it will remain free but unsupported and will receive no updates, so essentially its dead and buried.

                    Fedora is not a good alternative, nobody wants to upgrade 1000+ servers every 6 months and nobody wants to run a bleedingedge system on production servers.

                    Maybe we should consider a switch to *BSD family of operating systems, many apps are interchangeable...
                    Or maybe you should consider CentOS Stream.... It -is- the solution. If every linux distro could do what they are attempting, it would eliminate distro fragmentation.

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                    • #20
                      WTF!!

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