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Debian 10 "Buster" Currently Defaults To GNOME On Wayland, But That Still Could Change
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Installed Debian buster and started setting up OBS... What is the first thing I found? Nvenc does not work. I was not even aware they switched to Wayland by default I didn't care either but tried to resolve the issue and no matter what I tried it looks it is all Wayland and Nvidia does not go well. The great news is Ubuntu is still Xorg and they plan to stick for quite some time. At least some distros keeping common sense ironically I switched Debian due to Wayland issues there back then now it is time to switch back
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Originally posted by debianxfce View PostYou can not code:https://github.com/schmidtbag
Start programming and stop hunting me.
1. How is my ability to code at all relevant to anything in this entire discussion, or the comment you replied to?
2. Since when is github the definition of whether you can program something? I'm sure I do more programming than you on a weekly basis (some of which even involves using git, just not github), either for work or for my hobbies. Most of that code can't be publicized, either because it contains private information or because it's specific to a one-of-a-kind piece of hardware. Some of my hobby code is publicly available and open-source, just not posted on github.
3. I am not hunting you. Look back through all your posts with me (from any thread) and you'll find I'm far less aggressive/antagonistic against you than many others.
4. Bold claims warrant feedback whether you're asking for it or not.
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Originally posted by debianxfce View PostI agree that gnome3 is perfect but I dont agree that it has HiDPI support which is an unnecessary bloated feature that gnome3 doesnt need. HiDPI is an Apple invention to trick users into buying cheap 4K monitors. I have a 4K monitor which does not work with my Gnome3 desktop with "wayland" or hidpi". This is a perfect resolution because it allows me to run my games at lowest settings. With my stock Fedora kernel and slow Gnome3 desktop I get 0 FPS while running Assassin's Creed 1 on Steam Proton and 0 FPS on Super Tux Kart because the gnome3 desktop with wayland crashes.
The Fedora user eye cant see above 3 fps anyway so you dont need more.
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Originally posted by xfcemint View Post
Xfce is perfect by definition. All bugs are actually feature requests.
Also, Xfce currently supports HiDPI better than any other Linux DE (which all have crappy support for HiDPI). I mean, name me ONE linux DE which support seamlessly moving a window between two monitors, while retaining correct DPI. There is none. Also, HiDPi support should primarily be a feature of a display server, not of a DE, so another thing lacking in the retarded Wayland.
The Human eye cant see above 24 fps anyway so you dont need more.Last edited by retardxfce; 14 May 2019, 01:03 PM.
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Originally posted by Weasel View PostI fully agree with the first part. For the latter, I don't think it "runs" fine on 2 GB systems.
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Originally posted by kaprikawn View PostUnused RAM is wasted RAM
Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostI despise this sentiment. I suppose you just leave your car engine running 24/7, keep all of the lights on in your home, and spend every last penny of your paycheck as soon as you can?
This kind of thinking that promotes sloppy code and wasteful behaviors, which in turn forces people to upgrade their hardware that otherwise should have been perfectly capable of handling a certain workload. If you have unused RAM, that should be because you bought too much.
Ranting aside... I do agree that GNOME doesn't have a RAM problem, at least not inherently. I've run it just fine on systems with only 2GB. All it takes is killing off some unnecessary bloated services. The same can be said of a default XFCE install for most distros.
If it uses 1GB of RAM then you have much less room for caching, which will use your SSD a lot more, which will either swap to disk more, consume more power or just be more sluggish overall, depends on your setup. In either case, GNOME just sucks up a huge amount of RAM that could be spent on caching. It's not "unused" as some ignorants think.
Think of it like this: every time you swap to disk, or a file is dropped from the cache, a less amount of RAM "used" by applications would have helped in this situation. Doesn't matter if you have 1TB of RAM or not. If it happens, it was impacted by the wasted RAM of GNOME. It's really that simple.
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Originally posted by kaprikawn View PostUnused RAM is wasted RAM
This kind of thinking that promotes sloppy code and wasteful behaviors, which in turn forces people to upgrade their hardware that otherwise should have been perfectly capable of handling a certain workload. If you have unused RAM, that should be because you bought too much.
Ranting aside... I do agree that GNOME doesn't have a RAM problem, at least not inherently. I've run it just fine on systems with only 2GB. All it takes is killing off some unnecessary bloated services. The same can be said of a default XFCE install for most distros.
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Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
Java software is slow and uses more hw resources than C/C++ software. Gnome Shell is bad, it needs 23 extensions to be usable and then it uses 1Gb RAM and is slow.
How to turn gnome shell from hell to hell:
Unused RAM is wasted RAM, Gnome runs fine for me on 8GB.
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Originally posted by Britoid View PostWayland represents change, people hate change.
Originally posted by Britoid View Postsame thing as with systemd etc.
This forum has the hugest amount of arrogant narrow minded users I've ever seen.
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Originally posted by xfcemint View PostGnome Shell is retarded, everyone knows that. It is a DE for retards.
JetBrains releases its State of the Developer Ecosystem 2018 report, which finds Go is the most promising programming language this year
It is written on the internet and so is true. It is known.
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