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Debian 10 "Buster" Currently Defaults To GNOME On Wayland, But That Still Could Change

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  • rstrube
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    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

    What works then? Nothing for a graphical desktop PC user.
    It will be interesting to see if your hostility towards Wayland remains once XFCE starts supporting Wayland. What will you rail against then

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  • Danielsan
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    Nothing against wayland but it is not ready yet and not yet supported globally... I mean if from here to the next release it is ready and perfectly working for me is ready to go... In the meantime better sticking with xorg...

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  • Ironmask
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    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

    Hope, that wayland believers really need.
    Why is it needed when all the Xorg developers stopped adding features to Xorg and created Wayland?
    You might be getting your opinion confused with reality. There are things I dislike in the world, I don't reject their existence and insist they're dead or dying just because I dislike them.

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  • mpphill2
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    Debian may well choose either way and be justified,b this comments section is wild. You really get to see that some people are averse to change, some averse to things staying the same, and a much smaller minority who see both for what they are / can be.

    Choose the third option people. As with life, just about every choice you make in Linux has it's pros and cons.

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  • LightBit
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    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
    What works then? Nothing for a graphical desktop PC user.
    I don't know for KDE, but I'm pretty sure Xfce will work perfectly when they implement Wayland support.

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  • LightBit
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    Originally posted by davibu View Post
    Maybe there are 1 or 2 Bugs, but that doesn't mean Wayland it is unstable, stable means it runs and doesn't change rapidly, which is the case for Wayland.
    Wayland is fine, but Gnome doesn't work well with Wayland.

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  • davibu
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    I really really hope they go for Wayland.
    I mean there were two things with Stretch which were delayed: secure boot and Wayland.
    X is just old and unsecure.
    Maybe there are 1 or 2 Bugs, but that doesn't mean Wayland it is unstable, stable means it runs and doesn't change rapidly, which is the case for Wayland.
    The people act like Wayland is just 1-2years old.
    There are people here even arguing about remote connection which is ridiculous, who needs a GUI remote connection to a server and has no 2 seconds to change from Wayland to X?

    Everything what isn't implemented in Wayland is pretty much niche and shouldn't be used as an execuse for not shipping it, especially with XWayland in mind.
    With such a mentality it will just end like GNU/Hurd.

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  • kaprikawn
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    Originally posted by debianxfce View Post

    The default desktop of some distribution does not prove anything. Users are using anything else than gnome3 or kde. Here you see that other desktops are popular too:
    https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics

    Beginners use the default desktop and that is the reason why gnome3 and kde are in top of gamingonlinux statistics.



    Make wayland gaming videos then. Many games have problems with Xwayland and game developers are not interested to test. Using wrappers that slows down performance is stupid.
    I don't trust those statistics, no way is Arch/Manjaro/Antergos a third of installs. And XFCE ahead of Cinnamon for DEs...pffft. Mint is way more popular than that.

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  • LightBit
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    Originally posted by Britoid View Post
    Should be default, the more people use it, the more bugs can be discovered and fixed.
    Bugs are already known -> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745032
    gnome-shell is badly designed (monolithic) causing lag with Wayland. But Gnome developers prefer making GUI more retarded instead of fixing bugs.

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  • 144Hz
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    Most users just keep the default desktop. No need to complain or change anything. Why bother?

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