Xubuntu Will Stop Producing 32-bit ISOs Beginning With Xubuntu 19.04

[brent]

It's not about time. At least not for a distribution that clearly also aims at low resource / low power systems.
What has become of the "old- but safe" campaign? There are still many systems out there that do not waste power and are still suitable as purpose bound systems or even low demand desktop systems.

Aren't you better off with Ubuntu LTS on these old systems anyway? I really don't see the problem. Ubuntu 18.04 LTS will be supported until 2023 at the very least, possibly much longer. So there's still plenty of time if you do the sensible thing and stick to the current LTS release. After 2023, the few remaining machines that are stuck with 32 bit will most likely have reached the end of their useful lifetime.

[Dedale]

Eh...

I have a 31 years old C64 and it has still not finished its useful life.

I do not try to run a UNIX on it though. But i am sure someone did.

[jpg44]

It's about time.

Wrong. There still is a need for 32 bit for some CPUs that have been made recently on computers within the past few years that cannot support a 64 bit guest due to these systems having no AMD-V support and the lack of various features needed for virtualization of a 64 bit guest on those CPUs.

[DanL]

Aren't you better off with Ubuntu LTS on these old systems anyway? I really don't see the problem. Ubuntu 18.04 LTS will be supported until 2023 at the very least, possibly much longer.

Ubuntu stopped offering the 32-bit ISO's with 17.10.
Xubuntu 18.04 is officially supported only until 2021 (3 years). https://xubuntu.org/release/18-04/
I've always found this a bit odd though, as you could continue to run it and receive security/stability updates to non-xfce packages that Xubuntu shares in common with Ubuntu.

It's not about time. At least not for a distribution that clearly also aims at low resource / low power systems.

Xubuntu has moved away from that. It's more about offering a complete desktop experience for those who prefer the classic desktop paradigm over Gnome/Unity tablet-compromised interfaces.
There are better options out there for low resource systems, or one could use a minimal X/Ubuntu .iso and add only what is needed.

[dungeon]

Eh...

I have a 31 years old C64 and it has still not finished its useful life.

I do not try to run a UNIX on it though. But i am sure someone did.

Yeah there was LUnix OS for Commodore 64, but that was in 2.4 or bellow kernel times

I also still have C64, it even still see new games releases - 8bit Forever

[Candy]

Yeah there was LUnix OS for Commodore 64, but that was in 2.4 or bellow kernel times

I was just about to post the same video

Pöttering should make systemd available for it

[Vistaus]

The 32-bit users still have Debian stable XFCE, which is more appropriate imo, especially because is less bloated and thus requires less disk space and RAM.

And because it's debianxfce-approved.

[Vistaus]

Aren't you better off with Ubuntu LTS on these old systems anyway? I really don't see the problem. Ubuntu 18.04 LTS will be supported until 2023 at the very least, possibly much longer. So there's still plenty of time if you do the sensible thing and stick to the current LTS release. After 2023, the few remaining machines that are stuck with 32 bit will most likely have reached the end of their useful lifetime.

I agree. But what do you mean "2023 and *possibly* much longer"? 18.04 is supported until 2028, so it's "much longer", not "possibly much longer": https://news.softpedia.com/news/mark...s-523864.shtml

[cRaZy-bisCuiT]

Well, I expected people claiming there's still need for that. Yes, you're right, x86 in general, yes. But Xubuntu is a desktop OS and CPUs since 2004 or even earlier support x64.

For other systems there're other OSes.

[dungeon]

I agree. But what do you mean "2023 and *possibly* much longer"? 18.04 is supported until 2028, so it's "much longer", not "possibly much longer": https://news.softpedia.com/news/mark...s-523864.shtml

There Mark increased ESM by 2 years more basically

https://www.ubuntu.com/esm

Only main is LTS so supported by LTS, not universe repo again. Universe was never supported more than 3 years anyway If you don't touch universe repo, you are into LTS path - otherwise nope. ESM is selection.

Just like with Debian releases, everything is supported 3 years on any released architecture. More, like LTS/ELTS/CIP(SLTS) only more and more selected architectures and then further more and more selected packages and so on... down to the core

It is right to say "possibly much longer" as not everything is supported really

Average Joe user should upgrade both Ubuntu or Debian releases every 2 years and that is default, same like with Windows 10 LTSC/LTSB editions also on about 2 years... and that is recommended as to make upstream more happy about you, otherwise you could continue to use it for more, skip releases or whatever, but then do not complain at upstream too much