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    Phoronix: The State Of Fedora Linux In 2015

    Fedora's Flock conference started today with a keynote by Fedora Project Leader Matthew Miller. Miller's keynote was about the state of the Fedora Project...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...Of-Fedora-2015

  • #2
    The state of Fedora 23 might be stellar, but the state of desktop Linux in 2015 is pretty much the same as it was ten years ago or even 20. It now supports more hardware devices out of the box but its inherent issues remain intractable.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by birdie View Post
      The state of Fedora 23 might be stellar, but the state of desktop Linux in 2015 is pretty much the same as it was ten years ago or even 20. It now supports more hardware devices out of the box but its inherent issues remain intractable.

      I disagree, the state of desktop GNU/Linux improved tremendously, just like all other operating systems (more stable, faster booting, ...).

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      • #4
        Here we go again ... another fairy tale from the la-la land !

        After a brain fart called systemD(efeat) that 64% of polled users reject
        (to be the main point of discussion on their first conference this year),
        neutralized (killed off) CentOS (the CentOS 7 live cd startup performance
        can make one sick, probably thanks to systemD(efeat) again),
        now it is time to tell clueless Linux world that Fedora has become the best
        that happened since the sliced bread.

        "Fedora 23 Introduces New Security (...) for Workstation, Server and Cloud",
        in bold and oversized font !

        "Each Fedora edition is also now configured to use a secure version of
        the domain name system, DNSSEC. This ensures that users can trust that remote
        systems aren't being impersonated by hostile parties."

        No kidding ! How about educating yourselves ?
        http://sockpuppet.org/blog/2015/01/15/against-dnssec/

        Then you incorporate all possible garbage in your products, sell it to US gov,
        and join the ranks of dilettantes.

        And fuck up the Linux ecosystem in the process.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by birdie View Post
          The state of Fedora 23 might be stellar, but the state of desktop Linux in 2015 is pretty much the same as it was ten years ago or even 20. It now supports more hardware devices out of the box but its inherent issues remain intractable.
          I disagree with that. From a gamers perspective it's in a much better position. nVidia, AMD, and Intel have decent drivers available, which wasn't always the case. Steam on Linux, plus all the games. Andriod apps and games run on linux. Vulkan is only right around the corner.

          Things are looking better now than they ever did before.

          EDIT: I want to mention wine, but its compatibility with windows games is getting much worse with every new release so it's actually in worse condition than its ever been.
          Last edited by duby229; 12 August 2015, 03:46 PM.

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          • #6
            Another absolute security gem by Fedora:

            https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...rs/IQdCEpkooto

            "2. We discovered that the Fedora liveusb-create does _not_ verify signatures on
            downloaded packages -- we have temporarily fixed that by creating a local repo,
            verifying the signatures manually (ok, with a script and then building from
            there. Sigh."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jb.1234abcd View Post
              Another absolute security gem by Fedora:

              https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...rs/IQdCEpkooto

              "2. We discovered that the Fedora liveusb-create does _not_ verify signatures on
              downloaded packages -- we have temporarily fixed that by creating a local repo,
              verifying the signatures manually (ok, with a script and then building from
              there. Sigh."
              It says something about accountability though. If it was a proprietary project they just simply wouldn't have said anything at all.

              It doesn't mean that it's more insecure, it just means that they are being open about it. That's why you can go to any Linux distribution and read all about thousands of vulnerabilities. You won't find the same openness from MS or Apple, but OSes from both vendors suffer from just as many thousands of vulnerabilities. Just because they aren't open with identifying them doesn't mean they aren't there.

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              • #8
                Imho stable and Fedora don't belong in one sentence. If you want to see a stable Linux try Slackware. Slackware is the only distro that's been truly stable on the PC's I've had the last 10-15 years. Probably because they don't patch every piece of software to oblivion. And don't use dependency resolving. Which breaks stuff on many distro's. I've experienced problems on every Linux distro with dependency resolving. Which is also why the bigger distro's are bloated (they install ALL depends). And the cherry on top: no systemd.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SilverMachine View Post
                  Imho stable and Fedora don't belong in one sentence. If you want to see a stable Linux try Slackware. Slackware is the only distro that's been truly stable on the PC's I've had the last 10-15 years. Probably because they don't patch every piece of software to oblivion. And don't use dependency resolving. Which breaks stuff on many distro's. I've experienced problems on every Linux distro with dependency resolving. Which is also why the bigger distro's are bloated (they install ALL depends). And the cherry on top: no systemd.
                      Huh?

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