Mozilla Pushes "Shumway" Flash Into Firefox

[mrugiero]

Wow, judging from the first sentence, I guess Shumway might be open-source.

It is open source.

[Etzos]

Well when they came out with their Javascript PDF reader it mostly worked, but not as well as standalone readers already available, and there was no reason whatsoever to use it. And Mozilla themselves would post messages saying, "this document may not have rendered correctly (even when it did), you should probably use a different PDF reader!" No kidding guys, so why have you changed my settings to use this one? I expect Shumway to be similar. At least there is a decent reason to create it, given the problems with Flash and Adobe's dropping support.

By the way, is the Firefox PDF reader good yet? Is there any reason at all to use it?

Actually, there was a reason to use it: Since it is written in Javascript, it runs only in the Javascript sandbox. It's not a huge deal, but that helps to limit the possible exploit vectors of a PDF.
As for its stability and rendering capabilities, it is quite capable of handling most PDF's I have thrown at it. The only recent rendering glitch I have seen recently is a few images sometimes don't always appear.

[benmoran]

I was going to say - Mozilla's PDF reader is now pretty damn amazing now. If Shumway can reach that level, that would be great.

[beaverusiv]

@Chaz firefox's PDF is capable of every PDF I've thrown at it, but I just view basic ones, nothing with forms or anything.

I am very excited for shumway to see if it becomes a valid way to view Flash content on a tablet. Playing my game on a tablet would be awesome.

[Chaz]

Well when they came out with their Javascript PDF reader it mostly worked, but not as well as standalone readers already available, and there was no reason whatsoever to use it. And Mozilla themselves would post messages saying, "this document may not have rendered correctly (even when it did), you should probably use a different PDF reader!" No kidding guys, so why have you changed my settings to use this one? I expect Shumway to be similar. At least there is a decent reason to create it, given the problems with Flash and Adobe's dropping support.

By the way, is the Firefox PDF reader good yet? Is there any reason at all to use it?

[beaverusiv]

Testing it now, at work so the porno test will have to wait. So far it perceptibly uses more resources than Flash, and doesn't work with Daily Motion. Youtube seemed to just use Flash straight away, so I think they've added a blacklist of sites maybe? I play The Settlers Online which works exactly the same in Linux as Windows afaik is up to 2.5GB RAM and constant 100% CPU, nothing materialises.

On someone's bright side, all Flash ads worked!

[uid313]

LOOOOL

Considering youtube already has html5 support this is really the last blocker

Yes, porn is the only thing that is keeping Flash alive.

[halfmanhalfamazing]

Speed and performance

I hope the "Shumway" is much faster than Adobe's plugin. Sure, Adobe's linux plugin works, but if you take the occasion to play a flash game or stream HD content online, the Adobe plugin really shows its weaknesses.

[woegjiub]

If it can do webcomics, I'll be happy

The main thing I still need flash for is http://mspaintadventures.com/
That, and if I ever feel like a nostalgia trip, and want to watch old flash animations. They were good fun.

[darkbasic]

Does with with JW Player and Flowplayer?

Does it work on YouTube, PornTube, RedTube, xhamster, Beeg?

LOOOOL

Considering youtube already has html5 support this is really the last blocker