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  • molecule-eye
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    Originally posted by Chaz View Post
    Well when they came out with their Javascript PDF reader it mostly worked, but not as well as standalone readers already available, and there was no reason whatsoever to use it. And Mozilla themselves would post messages saying, "this document may not have rendered correctly (even when it did), you should probably use a different PDF reader!" No kidding guys, so why have you changed my settings to use this one? I expect Shumway to be similar. At least there is a decent reason to create it, given the problems with Flash and Adobe's dropping support.

    By the way, is the Firefox PDF reader good yet? Is there any reason at all to use it?
    The built-in pdf reader (pdf.js) is pretty darn good, actually. I've never had a problem in the latest iterations rendering math-symbol-heavy documents. (Maybe graphics-heavy documents are another story?) A lot of people don't want to even install acroread on their systems so the only option to get inline pdf viewing in Firefox is via pdf.js. (Well there *were* other options of embedding e.g. Okular in Firefox but I don't know if they still exist and they're nasty anyway.) It is a bit resource-heavy, for sure, but still worth using if you have a modern-ish PC where you won't notice it.

    I imagine Shumway will never really be usable compared to the outdated linux flash plugin provided by Adobe. That's ok though, because hopefully by the time Shumway catches up, we won't even need flash players!

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  • LinuxGamer
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    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Yes, porn is the only thing that is keeping Flash alive.
    No as most porn sites have HTML5 now for Mobile... AD's is whats keeping flash alive

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  • Ferdinand
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    Originally posted by Ibidem View Post
    In my book, that's a very good reason NOT to use it.
    Tried with Iceweasel 17...
    I seem to remember that 1, it didn't work with NoScript on
    NO! Say it ain't so! A javascript implementation of flash did not work without javascript.

    So in the end you came to say that it doesn't work for your pc yet.

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  • RealNC
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    Originally posted by phoronix View Post
    Mozilla has pushed their open-source "Shumway" open-source Flash/SWF player
    Is it Open Source? With a dash, even?

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  • Ibidem
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    Originally posted by Etzos View Post
    Actually, there was a reason to use it: Since it is written in Javascript, it runs only in the Javascript sandbox. It's not a huge deal, but that helps to limit the possible exploit vectors of a PDF.
    In my book, that's a very good reason NOT to use it.
    Tried with Iceweasel 17...
    I seem to remember that 1, it didn't work with NoScript on, and 2, it was so slow loading that I was trying to leave the page, having concluded it wouldn't load, before it started to show any content.
    So I promptry set the PDF reader back to Xpdf (somehow it had ignored the old settings...)

    AMD Neo dual-core @ 1.6 GHz, 3 GB RAM, SSD, and Radeon HD3200M; Squeeze "i386" with kernel updated to 3.8.x.

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  • jwilliams
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    Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
    There's a github page with the code, and I'm subscribed to the development mailing list (even though I don't develop, I thought it would be interesting) since a week ago.
    I'm still not convinced. The first sentence of the phoronix article really has to repeat "open-source" at least three times to be completely persuasive.

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  • Decatf
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    I'm trying the plugin on github on an Android tablet but it looks like the porn tubes already have HTML5 video fallback. I tried some sports streaming sites which tend to have shitty flash players and none of them work.

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  • mrugiero
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    Originally posted by jwilliams View Post
    I don't know. It really needs to be said at least three times to be sure.
    There's a github page with the code, and I'm subscribed to the development mailing list (even though I don't develop, I thought it would be interesting) since a week ago.

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  • jwilliams
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    Originally posted by mrugiero View Post
    It is open source.
    I don't know. It really needs to be said at least three times to be sure.

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  • ashkbajw
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    Originally posted by benmoran View Post
    I was going to say - Mozilla's PDF reader is now pretty damn amazing now. If Shumway can reach that level, that would be great.
    not sure about you butt in my case, be it a drivers issue or not, it renders slower than Atril, just as slow as when you scroll up or down on any page. It may not be the pdf viewer's fault, it may be firefox's fault, but slower is slower, Atrill scrolls smoothly where firefox's lags a lot and with 100% cpu usage.
    Just for the record, HD6950 with fglrx 13.10, ubuntu 12.04+mate. If any nvidia user could test this on his side...

    Aside from that, yeah, it is kind of usefull, at least i dont have the taskbar full of atrill windows while searching for datasheets for a chip or something.
    If they can fix that performance issue and overall it works better and faster or at least equal than adobe's then i'm in. Although java script plus flash sounds like a good place to live for security bugs.

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