They work together. But the problem is the domination and sometimes the ignorance of gnome.
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostDo you have any idea how utterly impossible this is?
Have you actually looked at GTK and Qt code?
Originally posted by Thaodan View PostThey work together. But the problem is the domination and sometimes the ignorance of gnome.
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Originally posted by mrugiero View PostI do have an idea, and I know how different they are. However, I'm not expecting this to happen from one release to the next. The same way you can gradually deprecate a toolkit (like they did with GTK2), you can gradually make the new APIs converge. I know this will not happen, but that doesn't make the need for this any less true (or any less false, in case some logic refutes the idea). Also, since a wrapper would still be needed for whatever language different from the one it's implemented in in the end, in one of the cases you will only need to figure out how to map them, in the best case.
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Originally posted by Delgarde View PostThat seems very unlikely. To my knowledge, any code that compiled without deprecation warnings on the newer Gtk+2 versions stands a pretty good chance of compiling with little or no modifications on 3.x.
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Originally posted by HeavensRevenge View PostAlso Just because KDE is big and kind of slow and bloated doesn't mean one bit that the UI framework used to build it is bad and bloated. That is 100% the fault of the KDE devs for not caring about perf and is in no way the fault of the Qt framework.
Originally posted by dee. View PostNo, Ubuntu does not represent the majority of desktop Linux, that's just stupid. Even in the Steam survey Ubuntu couldn't get a majority share. What statistics do you have to show otherwise?
And no, Mir is not going to "attract the most driver and software support" because of steam. GPU makers don't care about Steam, which is small peanuts compared to the render farms running RHEL which will be running Wayland.
And the GPU makers do care about Steam, if it's easy enough. Adding support for EGL means both Mir and Wayland, so it should be fine for the manufacturers to implement.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostInteresting. I see that the desktop background, for one, is the same between both, but then it might be a part of Openbox?
As far as I understand the situation, PCMan is first simply porting everything to Qt as an experiment but neither team expressed NIH syndrome.
So my guess is that both teams eventually pick what works best and let inferior tools with overlapping functionality die.
Originally posted by curaga View PostThey are in no way mutually exclusive; it can be both huge and modularized at the same time.
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View Post
Depends on how you define "majority". If more than 50%, then yes, you're right.
If more than others,
then you're wrong. They seem to have around 40% of the Linux users, so unless there is another distribution that amounts to more than that, Ubuntu is still the most popular. That's, of course, if you count desktops, and not servers.
And the GPU makers do care about Steam, if it's easy enough. Adding support for EGL means both Mir and Wayland, so it should be fine for the manufacturers to implement.
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Originally posted by dee. View PostIs there some way to define "majority" other than "more than 50%"? Anything that is less than 50% of the whole is by definition not a majority.
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostIf Windows is dying Linux is already buried. What's next? Applications are first written on Linux and then on Windows? It must be sad being you with all these delusions. Windows dying? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Linux doesn't even register on the desktop and you claim that Windows is dying? When was the last time you used Windows? What exactly did suck so much? Windows 7 is solid as hell. Even better than anything Linux. Especially when it comes to graphics drivers. So many more applications, so much better applications..... Hahahaha! Windows, dying! Take your pills man.
No, you need to face the facts - your beloved corporate empire is collapsing. Microsoft is dying, while Linux is growing and thriving, and all the angry rants you can post aren't going to change it.
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Originally posted by BO$$ View PostHahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Linux doesn't even register on the desktop and you claim that Windows is dying?
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