GTK 4.11.1 Released With Better Textures, Wayland Fractional Scaling

[cooperate]

We are volunteers! We are not paid! We are not obligated to prioritize our development time to please random user complaints! Commercial sponsorships are only for hosting and not into our pockets

You literally just answered yourself.

[You-]

But I am nobody, a small potato, not a billionaire who can fund a GTK fork by myself. So yeah, we are stuck.

Considering the manhours people put into gtk as fulltime developers, you dont need much of that. Just by volunteering your time alone you could provide like 50% increase in the current manpower hours and that would give you a huge stake in deciding what gets done and how.

But nah, you'd rather whine on some random forum instead.

[billyswong]

Considering the manhours people put into gtk as fulltime developers, you dont need much of that. Just by volunteering your time alone you could provide like 50% increase in the current manpower hours and that would give you a huge stake in deciding what gets done and how.

But nah, you'd rather whine on some random forum instead.

If the current team said you guys' wishes are nice to have but we don't prioritize fixing regression that don't affect ourselves, then there won't be so many conflicts. But the lengthy debates actually go like this: "We" think the user request is ideologically wrong and those features that users want to keep but "we" remove should never exist in the first place or are clutches that are now time to throw away. Then users anxiously add arguments for why the feature existed and why users think it should still exist in the future. Then those excuse cards will be pulled out and thread will be locked for "It is not forum here."

What's the point of time investment when there are ALREADY people who tried and got their patches rejected or left on table forever, not because of technical reasons but politics and ideologies.

[Yeayo guy]

GTK started as The Gimp Tool Kit, then It had a period where It was something like a general Tool Kit for all gnome libs based desktops. And now It is becoming The Gnome Tool Kit exclusively.

[Estranged1906]

What do we do now, KDE-bros?
First they finally add thumbnails after 2 decades, then they add fractional scaling! Now they're only missing a taskbar and they'll have a usable desktop environment!

[archerallstars]

Considering the manhours people put into gtk as fulltime developers, you dont need much of that. Just by volunteering your time alone you could provide like 50% increase in the current manpower hours and that would give you a huge stake in deciding what gets done and how.

But nah, you'd rather whine on some random forum instead.

I don't believe that no one ever told them to let the system tray live. But... Now, they add a half baked duplication of system tray called... background apps that only work on some Flatpak apps.

[dragon321]

Some people live in their bubble and refuse to admit Mac/Apple aesthetic is not the mainstream preference and taste of people, nor is dpi >= 200% scale any time soon.

When will some people will go outside their bubble and admit that just because Windows is most popular desktop OS doesn't mean that every other OS should follow its design ideas and they are not the best just because they are most popular?

They roar excuses such as "We are volunteers! We are not paid! We are not obligated to prioritize our development time to please random user complaints! Commercial sponsorships are only for hosting and not into our pockets!"

It's not excuse but truth. GTK is mainly developed by volunteers. It's not like every GTK developer has well paid job in Red Hat and can focus whole time on GTK. If you want product with commercial support get such product. GTK is not that kind of product.

[MorrisS.]

What do we do now, KDE-bros?
First they finally add thumbnails after 2 decades, then they add fractional scaling! Now they're only missing a taskbar and they'll have a usable desktop environment!

PLASMA desktop already has a taskbar.

[Estranged1906]

PLASMA desktop already has a taskbar.

That's the joke. Gnome doesn't.

[MorrisS.]

That's the joke. Gnome doesn't.

gnome has 2 taskbars. One sidebar and one steady topbar. Matter is why are needed 2 bars when one is more than sufficient?