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  • #81
    Originally posted by RavFX View Post
    PS : Don't tell me that I can switch back to Xorg on Fedora, I know, but I wanted a distrib usable in his default and supported mode.

    Finally ended installing Artix (OpenRC flavor with Plasma).
    i'm sure fedora xorg is better supported than artix plasma

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    • #82
      Originally posted by pal666 View Post
      i'm sure fedora xorg is better supported than artix plasma
      Well, I did not have time to dig the net for more info (partly why I stopped using gentoo, my time is valuable and so I decided to change for something that "just work" so I don't waste more of it).

      Fedora do not "just work" it crash.

      It could be because of the RX5700 and I would not be surprised (everyone know how much drivers issue we got with that one, since launch). But if it's the case and that Fedora would support Xorg much better than Artix[Arch], then they would have a simple video hardware detection run to simply failback to Xorg when know hardware that don't do well on wayland is detected......... Instead of forcing something broken by default and burying the line to use Xorg in some display manager config file. I got to use my laptop to find the solution about how to switch back to xorg and got to use the first TTY to go there change it because it was simply unusable on wayland..

      Artix work by default on my system, Fedora don't. End of the discution.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by RavFX View Post
        Instead of forcing something broken by default and burying the line to use Xorg in some display manager config file
        it's in the cogwheel on login screen
        Originally posted by RavFX View Post
        Artix work by default on my system, Fedora don't
        for some definition of "work"

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        • #84
          Originally posted by pal666 View Post
          it's in the cogwheel on login screen
          When he says "display manager config file": Manjaro, and therefore probably arch, hard disables wayland in the gdm3 config file, so he is correct. On a default manjaro gnome install, the cog therefore does not show a wayland option.

          Having spent a few days using Wayland gnome on Fedora (on a pure intel laptop), I think the manjaro default is poor. For me, Wayland is very close to being awesome. Zoom works (except for allowing a remote user to take control of the host), screen recording via the gnome extension EasyScreencast is great (choose a particular monitor or rectangular area), ksnip screen shots work (if installed via .rpm, the snap didn't work), and Firefox in native wayland is a revelation. Even the 'blurring' of non-Wayland apps is not too bad. If JetBrains made its products Wayland native, I would switch my main desktop (with AMD graphics). Note tlat screen shots, screen sharing ... these are things that Wayland has a reputation for breaking, but it's mostly not true any longer.

          As for Firefox: it is very awesome again, the containers feature is so much better than Chromium profiles. A few days ago after I solved how to make bookmarks open in specific containers (meaning I can book mark gmail and personal gmail/calendar/gdrive for instant access to work and personal containers, thank you https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...l-in-container) , it's my default browser again, after five or six years of Chrome/Chromium.
          Last edited by timrichardson; 07-08-2020, 06:39 PM.

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          • #85
            This made me finally switch from Chrome to Firefox. I switched from Firefox to Chrome many years ago when Firefox was going through some performance issues and Chrome was noticeable better. Now things are the other way around. Chrome is becoming slow and pegs with CPU at 100% sometimes, this news was the last drop to make me switch to Firefox.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by timrichardson View Post

              When he says "display manager config file": Manjaro, and therefore probably arch, hard disables wayland in the gdm3 config file, so he is correct. On a default manjaro gnome install, the cog therefore does not show a wayland option.

              Having spent a few days using Wayland gnome on Fedora (on a pure intel laptop), I think the manjaro default is poor. For me, Wayland is very close to being awesome. Zoom works (except for allowing a remote user to take control of the host), screen recording via the gnome extension EasyScreencast is great (choose a particular monitor or rectangular area), ksnip screen shots work (if installed via .rpm, the snap didn't work), and Firefox in native wayland is a revelation. Even the 'blurring' of non-Wayland apps is not too bad. If JetBrains made its products Wayland native, I would switch my main desktop (with AMD graphics). Note tlat screen shots, screen sharing ... these are things that Wayland has a reputation for breaking, but it's mostly not true any longer.

              As for Firefox: it is very awesome again, the containers feature is so much better than Chromium profiles. A few days ago after I solved how to make bookmarks open in specific containers (meaning I can book mark gmail and personal gmail/calendar/gdrive for instant access to work and personal containers, thank you https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...l-in-container) , it's my default browser again, after five or six years of Chrome/Chromium.
              Now if only Zoom used the portals properly intead of banging pipewire directly, it would also work from inside Flatpak sandbox.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by nanonyme View Post

                Now if only Zoom used the portals properly intead of banging pipewire directly, it would also work from inside Flatpak sandbox.
                Would love to get some clarity on browser sandboxing... So many opinions and so little reliable data. I hear that firejail "increases the attack surface area," for example. There are also claims of chromium's sandboxing being better than Firefox's - and claims of them being equal...

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