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Originally posted by starshipeleven View Postthey need telemetry to know where performance really matters. It isn't as simple as "make it all go fast".
Also Linux is not anywhere near a priority and it's understandable.
Spyware cannot be needed.
If they need feedback from the users, they need just to ask and listen.
Is that hard for them to just make an online form with questions and answers, checkboxes and texts inputs ?
And I think they know very well what people need, but just don't care.
Look at video acceleration,
Everyone knows that Youtube and other vide sharing platforms are very visited, they don't need spyware for that.
And they know that hardware technology evolves, screens get higher resolutions (HD, 4K) and higher refresh rates (60 Hz, 120 Hz, 144 Hz), etc, again you don't need spyware for that.
Just make sure that the browser can decode as efficiently as it can 4K at 60 FPS and that's it, you cover also lower resolutions and lower refresh rates.
But no, they need tot invest most of their resources into things that no one uses or very few of use can afford such thing (VR).
Do they need spyware to find that less than 1% of use have a VR device or that we we have one soon in the future ?
Do they need spyware to find that Linux users want also proper Wayland support ?
But I wasn't complaining about this spyware that they say it's for own good, but I was complaining about the constant nagging about the sync feature that is everywhere now.
1. Recommendation on first use of Firefox
2. Top option of the menu
3. Own big section in the preferences.
4. By default icon for it in the toolbar
At this point I'm not even sure if this are all the places where I've seen it and being annoyed about this aggresive marketing ala Microsoft just to get my data.
I don't want to sync my passwords and bookmarks with them. What's so hard to understand ?
And how Linux (free and open source software) is not a priority for a company that they say they want to protect people's privacy and freedom?
How is that understandable ?Last edited by Danny3; 15 March 2020, 06:53 PM.
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Originally posted by Xaero_Vincent View PostThanks! These videos are playing fine with VAAPI GPU video decoding on my end. No color distortion or artifacts.
What graphics card are you using? I'm using the NVIDIA proprietary drivers.
I'm using a AMD RX 550 on my desktop (that quite frankly does not really need hardware acceleration anyway), and it is also the same on a AMD WX 2100 (Oland I think, it's using Radeon, not AMDGPU), and on an AMD APU 2400G Pro.
Surprise surprise, I just tried them on my work laptop with an Intel CPU/graphics, and its playing fine with hw accel enabled.
Goddamnit AMD.
I also have these chromium-vaapi v80 options enabled:
--ignore-gpu-blacklist --enable-gpu-rasterization --enable-native-gpu-memory-buffers --enable-zero-copy
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Originally posted by Danny3 View PostThere is not such thing as telemetry is needed.
Spyware cannot be needed.
If they need feedback from the users, they need just to ask and listen.
Look at video acceleration,
Just make sure that the browser can decode as efficiently as it can
need tot invest most of their resources into things that no one uses or very few of use can afford such thing (VR).
Do they need spyware to find that Linux users want also proper Wayland support ?
constant nagging about the sync feature that is everywhere now.
At this point I'm not even sure if this are all the places where I've seen it and being annoyed about this aggresive marketing ala Microsoft just to get my data.
They also offer the software and documentation to roll your own sync server on your own infrastructure. For example there are Docker containers for that.
And how Linux (free and open source software) is not a priorityLast edited by starshipeleven; 15 March 2020, 07:15 PM.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostEh, I've been using it for a while on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed (where the chromium is patched to be able to use HW accel) and it's like 25% of the videos and many livestreams are psychedelic colors and light shows.
Wish you better luck than me.
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I tried to enable the flags recommended by Xaero_Vincent and now on my Tumbleweed it works well with Xorg too. I also checked in chrome: // gpu / and hardware acceleration is active.Last edited by Charlie68; 15 March 2020, 07:36 PM.
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Originally posted by Volta View Post
Windows XP was utter crap. It didn't support a thing out of the box, it was BSOD hell for long time and it was probably the most vulnerable OS in existence. Oh and 3GB RAM support. Thanks
It was so much less vulnerable than XP and still fairly compatible.
...wait what is the thread about? Is it about Firefox or Phorodows?Last edited by tildearrow; 15 March 2020, 07:36 PM.
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Originally posted by R41N3R View PostThe only race that matters for me at the moment is when my browser is feature complete on Wayland and Firefox works quite good now (except for copy&paste and scaling probably due to Gtk issues).
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostHm, so it's a hardware/driver issue.
I'm using a AMD RX 550 on my desktop (that quite frankly does not really need hardware acceleration anyway), and it is also the same on a AMD WX 2100 (Oland I think, it's using Radeon, not AMDGPU), and on an AMD APU 2400G Pro.
Surprise surprise, I just tried them on my work laptop with an Intel CPU/graphics, and its playing fine with hw accel enabled.
Goddamnit AMD.
Tried using these options to launch chromium, no difference.
/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable --flag-switches-begin --enable-gpu-rasterization --enable-oop-rasterization --enable-zero-copy --ignore-gpu-blacklist --enable-smooth-scrolling --flag-switches-end --disable-webrtc-apm-in-audio-service --save-page-as-mhtml
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