In my opinion, Xfce didn't have to be ported to the Gtk3 libs; instead, the Xfce folks had to fork the Gtk2 libs.
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Originally posted by debianxfce View Post
Just wait it to break because of constantly updating qt packages. No go when using a rolling release distribution.
So LXQT breaking for you cause of other QT probs must be a bug of your distro. Maybe this is why you're the only one using it?
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I'm using XFCE for years, after testing Gnome, KDE, Pantheon.
Just one thing, XFCE developement is slow (too ?) but secure, and some features needs really to be implemented (like colord, vblank).
For me KDE is a good eyecandy DE, suitable for users who wants to. XFCE is fast, flexible, essential.
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Assuming we are able to move to the next level of discussion (e.g. abandon the ridiculous religious war about the best DE, which BTW is the Merkur 25C), I'd like to move the focus onto the following question: does the GTK3 port mean XFCE 4.14 has Wayland support?Last edited by lucrus; 20 May 2019, 04:09 AM.
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Originally posted by xfcemint View PostIt is not a dealbreaker, but it is nice. I type my login and *poof* the Xfce desktop is up. Such a nice feeling. Especially on a laptop.
The actual time heavily depends on the storage device. On an SSD drive, KDE can almost make it in 2 seconds, but on a HDD it is a 20 second disaster. eMMC or USB stick is somewhere in between.
Yes, storage device matters. I've run KDE on an old laptop but it's bottleneck was due to using a 32GB USB stick as the boot/storage media, it could barely manage 16MB/sec over USB 2.0.. That would show the desktop rather fast(provided no plasmoid widgets were being used iirc), but still take a while before you could interact without interruptions, I believe most of that was due to the poor I/O though. It ran smoothly afterwards.
Originally posted by xfcemint View PostThe thing is that Xfce is guaranteed to work on low power / low memory hardware. Then I don't have to learn and setup two different desktops. Whatever device I use, I know that Xfce will work. I just copy my setings over and it is done. So convenient.
How well does Xfce work on a Pi Zero or lower than that? There's a certain cut off point with Xfce still.
Originally posted by xfcemint View PostHard to find a device with less than 1 GB RAM today. And even if you do, what's the point of running a desktop on such a device?
This is argument that continues to lose relevance as time goes forward. Any slight advantage here has little value imo, but take whatever wins you can get I guess?
Originally posted by xfcemint View PostI don't know about that. If you show me a Raspberry Pi running KDE, I'll believe it.
Originally posted by xfcemint View PostODROID-N2 has 4 GB RAM. That is sufficient to run a Windows 10 desktop.
Also, the GPU on
ODROID-N2 is Mali-G52. Possibly the Panfrost GPU driver is in use, and that's why it can run KDE.
Yes the Panfrost driver is used, and the SBC will receive mainline support in 5.2 kernel. This was just an example board. I'm not going to go on further than that, you can run other DEs on cheaper and lower resource/power hardware than Xfce can too, you'd have similar points to make against the weaker hardware.
Originally posted by xfcemint View PostI don't know. Xfce runs the same with or without a GPU.
It's possible that KDE can use MESA for software-only rendering, but that would be slow and annoying as hell.
Originally posted by xfcemint View PostWell, I like Xfce. Maybe it just suits my needs. I know KDE has more features than Xfce, but I never needed those extras. The features of Xfce are quite sufficient for my needs.
I somewhat dislike the window decorations for Xfce you get with Linux Mint. So I just edited them in a text editor. In a half an hour, I got what I wanted. It was so easy.
I don't like Gnome Shell, Gnome 3 or whatever it is called.
KDE is pretty easy to change up stuff like that too, don't even need a text editor which makes it more accessible.
I'm not fond of where Gnome is going either, had too many bad experiences with it, but GTK4 might be interesting.
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Originally posted by boxie View Post*ah hem* If only XFCE were as good as KDE... this xfce dinosaur is moving so slowly, it's acting like a tar pit for all the users that don't know any better!
Luckily CDE got opensourced some time ago and last time I tried it, it's fast becoming useful on modern unix. Give me back my motif, kthxbye.
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Originally posted by veeableful View PostI have never used XFCE on high DPI screen (which I assume it doesn’t do right now) so does anyone know if this release will make it usable on high DPI screen? Thanks!
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