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  • #71
    Well I did point out Linux runs old Windows games better than Windows. Still, you can't erase the fact new titles are going to work better with Windows and Linux will have to adapt which will take time. That's why to this day you can't play GTA 5 without graphical glitches (The considerably lower frame rate aside). I'm not against Linux at all but if you want to be this impressed with its' gaming prowess that you think a gamer should be totally satisfied with it at this point in time, get back to me when new titles run flawlessly (I won't hold my breath). I didn't deny a lot of effort has been expended on this effort to make Linux infinitely better at gaming than it used to be, especially by the Steam people lately- that has totally happened and to me it's pretty amazing they have even gotten GTA 5 to run on Linux at all. Perhaps it will matter even less when/if GPUs can be bought at Earth prices again? But already we're looking at near future game titles being Windows 11 only. Tell me how it's not going to take time for Linux to adapt to that. You'd probably rather argue that new games are pointless because you certainly play them at some kind of penalty if Linux is your host OS, even with graphics card pass-through in a VM.

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    • #72
      I should just explain perhaps I am a bit biased because I remember the time before Macs and Windows where you had to know how to use a CLI to use a computer at all. So in my mind, 'nix is for serious tech business and Windows is for people who don't want to be bothered with CLIs unless they are power users/administrator/specialist sorts. For any kind of server purposes I'm goin with Linux because it's vastly superior at that to Windows. It is only very recently in computer history where running something as feature full as (however bloated) MS Office is easy to do on Linux. Most image editing sorts prefer the intuitiveness of PhotoShop to GIMP. New games will run better on Windows for the forseeable future because Microsoft wants it this way but you can survive as a gamer on Linux these days, especially a retro-gamer. Now I figure OS loyalty is akin to political loyalty. You take the one you have the least objections to personally, warts and all. I've just been using both for so long it's what I like to do and thus I'm glad both exist and that Linux actually seems to get better all the time, forcing the profiteering empire builders to stay on their toes. I'm sure Microsoft would still keep releasing new versions of Windows. They just wouldn't put nearly as much effort into improving the product as they have been in the post-Ballmer era, Nadella grasps that Linux is a real threat to their business model whereas a marketing mind like Ballmer's thought he could just bad mouth it out of existence, even as he was using it to keep his own company going smoothly.

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      • #73
        I might have to use WSL2 once I get my next VR headset as I've already been told no initial Linux support plus SteamVRforLinux is not in good shape atm. Lots of little issues plus wireless VR is just not really viable under Linux atm. Probably a few years to go before it gets on par with where windows is with VR atm, sadly. (unless Deckard motivates Valve to do something...)

        PS. I'm not happy about this, don't flame me!

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        • #74
          Originally posted by leo_sk View Post

          I don't think i can get my point across. I don't need articles to tell me i can't use desktop linux. I have been using linux on desktop for more than 10 years, and exclusively linux for last 4. Only case one wouldn't be able to daily drive linux (except requiring windows/mac os specific software) is if one either uses nvidia or is an idiot
          Pray tell in what way using NVIDIA video cards prevents you from using Linux? NVIDIA had a Linux driver long before ATI did and the open source Nouveau driver isn't all that bad.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by mozo View Post

            I migrated all of the stuff at the company I work. Over 30 people. All are very happy and they even started to bring their home machines to install Linux on them. Educating employees??? Zero problems and they are ready to go in 10 minutes with some simple explanations.
            I do not believe this for a minute!

            There is no way you moved 30 people that use MS Office every day, along with any other closed source, proprietary software, to Linux, and associated open source "equivalents" and not only did no one complain but they also brought their home pc's for you to vandalize.

            I would have fired you in a minute for even suggesting such a thing, you are basically claiming that you wasted 30 plus Windows licenses to install a half-assed "alternative" that lacks even a basic decent office suite, and sorry, but LibreOffice and the like just don't cut it.

            I will be blunt, you are a liar and a poor one at that.

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            • #76
              I mostly agree with you RedEyed, even being (still today) at Linux exclusively for +10 years. I just don't see sense on you wasting time talking about the obvious, the community, especially the most tech savvy, does not want to listen, and will not...

              Anyway about Nginx, I suspect some sort of smarter caching down into a more efficient level in the stack of the VM is happening, it is not the first time benchmarks are not measuring real work and doing exploitable pattern job.
              Last edited by RomuloP; 30 September 2021, 11:42 PM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by reba View Post


                Dude, I am literally playing Star Citizen on a Debian (you know, that weird distibution with the "old packages") installation using Wine (Lutris launcher) on a laptop with a dedicated Nvidia GPU with mismatching gcc versions.

                This should tick all the "that can not work" boxes I know of.

                And it f*cking works.
                Congrats, you are playing one Windows based game using a framework designed to "mimic" (because WINE is not an emulator, lol) the very closed source proprietary OS that you seem to hate.

                Makes perfect sense.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by mozo View Post

                  User share is not a measure of quality. If you think like that, it seems RnB is the best music on the planet? Meh, it's a crap - the same as Windows.
                  I do not think R&B is the most listened to music on the planet, I don't think it's even the most listened to in the U.S, I think Rock is much more popular.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by RedEyed View Post
                    Is it possible, that Windows can have better hardware support than bare metal Ubuntu?
                    Windows has better hardware support than Linux? No way!

                    And by that I mean of course it has better hardware support, you even need to ask the question?

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by mozo View Post
                      And I migrated over 300 people to Linux and no one is looking back.
                      You did no such thing, at my last job migrating people from Windows 7 to Windows 10 was a nightmare, with numerous managers and directors and employees complaining and legacy software that could not be installed on 64bit OSes because it used a 16bit installer.

                      No joke, it took the better part of a year to migrate everyone to Win 10 and some systems still had not been migrated when I left.

                      And you "migrated over 300 people to Linux" and no one hit you over the head with a computer?

                      Not bloody likely.

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