Windows 11 WSL2 Performance Is Quite Competitive Against Ubuntu 20.04 LTS / Ubuntu 21.10

[mozo]

Sure they will not reach similar level of user share

User share is not a measure of quality. If you think like that, it seems RnB is the best music on the planet? Meh, it's a crap - the same as Windows.

[RedEyed]

User share is not a measure of quality. If you think like that, it seems RnB is the best music on the planet? Meh, it's a crap - the same as Windows.

Agree with you about music.
But analogy does not fit the reality. People simply chose what kind of music to listen to. Actually, people doesn't care which OS they are using, they just want to do their job done as fast as possible.

I would like to see linux among primary Desktop OSes, but it's not ready for desktop (not personallt for me), linux requires learning, general user doesn't want to learn.

[RedEyed]

Okay, If you don't mind, I got bored with this topic "Linux is not ready for Desktop"

Let's talk about, why Nginx is faster on WSL?

I'm really curious.
AFAIK, WSL is closed source, so we can't know for sure, right?

One dumb explanation: Is it possible, that Windows can have better hardware support than bare metal Ubuntu?

[RedEyed]

Anybody got any idea why Nginx is faster on WSL? I'd be curious to know.

WSL2 just a VM
so it means that Windows handles network stack

[blacknova]

User share is not a measure of quality. If you think like that, it seems RnB is the best music on the planet? Meh, it's a crap - the same as Windows.

User share is the measure of success. Quality does contribute. Do not assume that people are stupid just cause they select Windows/OSX over Linux, they are not. They just don't want to complicate thing they don't really care about.
No one really care about Windows price, but everyone care about ability to run their game library and whichever over application they want, plug in whatever shitty device they bought.

Linux do not really bring anything but high performance on competition table:
1. Desktop stability is meh
2. Power management is subpar
3. Graphics drivers until recently... meh
4. Application management, well that one complicated question.
5. Color management not-existing;
6. Stable runtime - absent, unless you explicitly target some LTS distro;
7. HW support limited - policy to bring everything into kernel, disapprove of out of tree drivers and absence of stable kernel's API do not make IHVs want to support some very specific HW on Linux, or this hardware is supported on very narrow selection of distros and kernels.
8. ISVs support limited.

As much as it is joy to use Linux as development workstation it is not exactly geared to anything else.

And as much as it pains to admit, RedHat's and IBM's effort to enforce and limit Linux desktop to GNOME can in the long run make better desktop system of Linux (or kill it completely).

[mozo]

Do not assume that people are stupid just cause they select Windows/OSX over Linux, they are not.

Oh yes, they are. Every other "problem" you described is either subjective or object to chicken and the egg paradox. And I migrated over 300 people to Linux and no one is looking back. I'm using it for 15 yeasr and the experience is great so far. I'll never regress to Windows and there's no reason to.

And just a funny fact. There's a torrent tracker zamunda.net with over 10K Linux games (Many Windows AAA games ported too). There are games which aren't available for Windows there, like Diablo 2: Resurrected for example. Windows zombies are begging in the comments section for Windows version. Are they installing Linux? Nope. And I can play every single game I want and they are thousands, believe me. In this zamunda case if they intsall Linux, they will able to play all games they want but they will never install it because they are institutionalized. That's the bitter truth. The force of habit - not quality of everything else.

[blacknova]

And just a funny fact. There's a torrent tracker zamunda.net with over 10K Linux games...

Here goes any of your credibility. No one said anything about games, many users don't care about games, business do not care about games. And yet most select Windows over Linux.
Business know how to count money, so if it was possible to just replace Windows with Linux for office desktops and save on expenses, everyone would have switched in a blink.

As it is saving money on Windows doesn't cover costs of switching to Linux, educating employees, etc. Some does switch but that is more of political decision than of financial.

[er888kh]

Here goes any of your credibility. No one said anything about games, many users don't care about games, business do not care about games. And yet most select Windows over Linux.
Business know how to count money, so if it was possible to just replace Windows with Linux for office desktops and save on expenses, everyone would have switched in a blink.

As it is saving money on Windows doesn't cover costs of switching to Linux, educating employees, etc. Some does switch but that is more of political decision than of financial.

One major obstacle is that people fear Linux. We had this digitally illiterate person in our school, and someone had installed Ubuntu 19.04 on his machine. He was using just fine, doing his management job using the web browser and occasionally using LibreOffice for other stuff. The fun fact is, he didn't know how to use windows when someone installed it for him (without even him knowing or wanting it). So in terms of ease of use, Linux is on-par with windows in typical office use case scenario

[doesnotcompute]

I should add, overall I really like what I see in Windows 11 so far. At least, it seems Microsoft's very late adoption of proper software testing protocols seems to be paying off. I've had very few problems with the OS for something that hasn't even been officially released yet. Just maybe this will be the first Windows that is released in decent usable shape, if my experience is not an exceptional one, anyway.

Also if I wasn't a gamer I would use Linux full time probably but I see myself dual booting for many years to come. I realize Linux gets better and better at gaming all the time, too... but it hasn't quite caught Windows in this department yet, except for being able to run old Windows games better than Windows. To this day some still argue it was never even intended to be a Desktop OS and it should continue to just be a server OS. I think it's nice to have a free alternative though. It's probably only that Linux keeps getting better and better as a Desktop OS that Microsoft bothers to try and actually improve Windows, at all.

[aht0]

You're saying this like M$ is some kind of enemy or evil. It's obviouse that they want this, bc no one spend money for nothing.

They are looking at MS through sort of neomarxist prism. Is it proprietary? Check, is it "not free"? Check, is it dominating globally? Check. Ergo, it's evil imperialist spawn.

Soviets applied very closely analogous mental checklist on all things (I was born in USSR when Communism was told to be around the corner and achieved within next decade. Thus somewhat familiar with the mental pattern). Kinda see rabid socialist political commissar now in every hardcore Linux fan. They are exactly alike: absolute extremist black/white or good/evil opinions, denounce everything but their favourite software package/distribution/component and become utterly personal and hostile moment you indicate your thoughts/opinions differ from theirs.