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  • #11
    Originally posted by uid313 View Post
    Does Haiku have any benefits over Windows or Linux?
    DuckDuckGo is a wonderful thing.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by gilboa View Post

      Its ***fast***...it is considerably faster than Linux...it lacks modern multi-user support.
      It is VERY fast precisely because it is a single-user operating system...and the fact that it is microkernel system and only uses 1 GB, when downloaded.

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      "Haiku is an open-source operating system...that specifically targets personal computing...Haiku aims to become a fast, efficient, simple to use, easy to learn and yet very powerful system for computer users of all levels. The key highlights that distinguish Haiku from other operating systems include: specific focus on personal computing, custom kernel designed for responsiveness, fully threaded design for great efficiency with multi-processor/core CPUs, rich object-oriented API for faster development, database-like file system (BFS) [a journaled file system, by the way] with support for indexed metadata, and unified, cohesive interface"....Distrowatch review of R1, Beta2, on 06/09/2020


      " The Haiku desktop boots in just a fraction of time compared with an average systemd-based Linux system”...
      ..." Haiku has relatively modest hardware requirements. It needs an x86-compatible CPU (Pentium II or above), 128MB of RAM (1GB is recommended), and at least 700MB of hard drive space. Our aging Sandy Bridge-based machine felt like a super-speed jet with Haiku... “

      https://www.linux-magazine.com/Issue...6/Review-Haiku


      "...let’s take a look at what it is like to use Haiku as an operating system. The first thing you notice when booting up and running Haiku is its raw speed. It is just that, raw and fast. And I officially declare it the fastest operating system that I have ever used. Over my many years of using and testing many different Windows, Linux and Unix based operating systems, Haiku wipes the floor with all of them combined...”
      November 2012, Haiku R1 Alpha 4.1 review
      Last edited by danmcgrew; 22 June 2021, 08:27 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by danmcgrew View Post

        DuckDuckGo is a wonderful thing.
        I don't use DuckDuckGo, I use Google. DuckDuckGo is dog slow! 🐌️

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        • #14
          Originally posted by uid313 View Post

          I don't use DuckDuckGo, I use Google. DuckDuckGo is dog slow! 🐌️
          I suggest using google to troubleshoot your internet connection then.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by uid313 View Post

            I don't use DuckDuckGo, I use Google. DuckDuckGo is dog slow! 🐌️

            By all means, continue using that tool which, you have tacitly implied, gives you no answers ("Does Haiku have any benefits over Windows or Linux?"), as opposed to using one which would answer all your questions regarding Haiku, but which you do not, or will not, use because it is too slow.
            Not to put too fine a point on this, but If you don't use it, how do you know it is too slow?

            Pursuit of a formal course in logic is strongly indicated.

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            "Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded."--Yogi Berra
            Last edited by danmcgrew; 23 June 2021, 10:16 AM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by uid313 View Post
              Does Haiku have any benefits over Windows or Linux?
              Using it: No. Developing code for it as a hobby: Sure.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by cesarcafe View Post
                While I keep an eye on all OS developments I hear of -and Haiku has been one of them-, however if I had to choose whether to put a CPU or a blitter in a new computer, I'd choose the later, so I really feel offside in OSs where the gfx is not the first citizen. My first UNIX was IRIX, so I think that explains it.
                God is in the details.
                If you spend your days mostly using vim (as I do...), hearing music and watching some low-res videos on youtube, the lack of accelerated 2D (and 3D) will have little effect, if any, on your day-to-day work.
                As I mentioned above, Haiku is *very* good at doing blitter using the CPU.
                If, on the other hand you play 3D games and watch 4K movies (as I also do...) Haiku is not up to scratch.

                As a fellow IRIX user (many, many years ago) I can't say the SGI's graphics was any faster than Haiku on any decent 10+ y/o PC.

                - Gilboa
                oVirt-HV1: Intel S2600C0, 2xE5-2658V2, 128GB, 8x2TB, 4x480GB SSD, GTX1080 (to-VM), Dell U3219Q, U2415, U2412M.
                oVirt-HV2: Intel S2400GP2, 2xE5-2448L, 120GB, 8x2TB, 4x480GB SSD, GTX730 (to-VM).
                oVirt-HV3: Gigabyte B85M-HD3, E3-1245V3, 32GB, 4x1TB, 2x480GB SSD, GTX980 (to-VM).
                Devel-2: Asus H110M-K, i5-6500, 16GB, 3x1TB + 128GB-SSD, F33.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by danmcgrew View Post
                  It is VERY fast precisely because it is a single-user operating system...and the fact that it is microkernel system and only uses 1 GB, when downloaded.
                  I must admit that I see little connection between the lack of multi-user support (and/or micro-kernel) and speed.
                  OS can be fast and multi-user, and slow and single user.

                  - Gilboa

                  oVirt-HV1: Intel S2600C0, 2xE5-2658V2, 128GB, 8x2TB, 4x480GB SSD, GTX1080 (to-VM), Dell U3219Q, U2415, U2412M.
                  oVirt-HV2: Intel S2400GP2, 2xE5-2448L, 120GB, 8x2TB, 4x480GB SSD, GTX730 (to-VM).
                  oVirt-HV3: Gigabyte B85M-HD3, E3-1245V3, 32GB, 4x1TB, 2x480GB SSD, GTX980 (to-VM).
                  Devel-2: Asus H110M-K, i5-6500, 16GB, 3x1TB + 128GB-SSD, F33.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

                    Not sure what you mean with regards to videos. I installed Haiku once again last week and 1080p on YouTube is no issue at all, at least in WebPositive.
                    YMMV, I guess.
                    On an older PC, I couldn't get WP to display youtube and Otter couldn't handle 1080 cleanly.
                    That said, it has been awhile since I tested Haiku on a real PC (I usually only run it on a VM).

                    - Gilboa
                    oVirt-HV1: Intel S2600C0, 2xE5-2658V2, 128GB, 8x2TB, 4x480GB SSD, GTX1080 (to-VM), Dell U3219Q, U2415, U2412M.
                    oVirt-HV2: Intel S2400GP2, 2xE5-2448L, 120GB, 8x2TB, 4x480GB SSD, GTX730 (to-VM).
                    oVirt-HV3: Gigabyte B85M-HD3, E3-1245V3, 32GB, 4x1TB, 2x480GB SSD, GTX980 (to-VM).
                    Devel-2: Asus H110M-K, i5-6500, 16GB, 3x1TB + 128GB-SSD, F33.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

                      Don't bother answering uid313. He asks the same question in almost every Haiku thread and receives answers every time. So if he doesn't know by now…
                      I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt.

                      - Gilboa
                      oVirt-HV1: Intel S2600C0, 2xE5-2658V2, 128GB, 8x2TB, 4x480GB SSD, GTX1080 (to-VM), Dell U3219Q, U2415, U2412M.
                      oVirt-HV2: Intel S2400GP2, 2xE5-2448L, 120GB, 8x2TB, 4x480GB SSD, GTX730 (to-VM).
                      oVirt-HV3: Gigabyte B85M-HD3, E3-1245V3, 32GB, 4x1TB, 2x480GB SSD, GTX980 (to-VM).
                      Devel-2: Asus H110M-K, i5-6500, 16GB, 3x1TB + 128GB-SSD, F33.

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