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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostHowever you could certainly say that macOS is composed of code derived from NEXTStep, BSD, Mach and other free software projects code, as well as developed by Apple. It certainly is clear that Apple is making good profit from everyone elses work too (including GNU and BSD projects).
And Apple gave BSD back Clang.
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Originally posted by aht0 View Post
So is Android. But would you label it BSD?
There is a strange phenomenon certainly we see with beginners on the FreeBSD forums / mailing lists of people trying to connect the dots and think a fancy frontend on FreeBSD "makes it macOS". But these dots unfortunately don't exist and it wouldn't make any more of an end result compared to doing the same with Linux.
Originally posted by aht0 View PostAnd Apple gave BSD back Clang.
However in a sense, yes, the project gave the BSDs a suitably licensed compiler. Though I wouldn't say it gave it "back". It never actually had a BSD licensed compiler so this was a really happy bonus. Traditionally BSD used pcc and gcc since it was released as open-source. So it has always had many compilers available to it, just under less permissive licenses.
Android also officially uses clang. But again, that is not BSD. So I guess Apple gave Linux kernel derived platforms back Clang.Last edited by kpedersen; 13 June 2021, 10:50 AM.
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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostNo I wouldn't label Android as BSD either. Same reason why Windows isn't BSD, Linux isn't BSD and macOS isn't BSD.
Quite the opposite, Android gets thrown in your face usually as an poster-child-example of "linux's success and superiority" when some linux-fanatic-asshole starts yet another "linux is better than bsd" -flamewar.
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Originally posted by aht0 View PostI was being rhetorical. Because idiots putting OSX into same kettle with BSD's are entirely ignoring little fact that large piece of Android code also originate from BSD's. C library is kind of important in an OS, don't you agree (just an example)?
Yep, pretty much all of these operating systems share bits. That is why I do find it quite amusing when you get those pathological anti-BSD weirdos.
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I wish them luck with their endeavours, but I can't help but feel they're on to a loser before they even start. If they closely replicate macOS, they'll be marked down for the few areas where it's not 100% the same... if they diverge and do something different, they'll be criticised for that, instead. I'm not even going to start worrying about what pedigree what OS has with regards to kernel right now...
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Originally posted by Paradigm Shifter View PostI wish them luck with their endeavours, but I can't help but feel they're on to a loser before they even start. If they closely replicate macOS, they'll be marked down for the few areas where it's not 100% the same... if they diverge and do something different, they'll be criticised for that, instead. I'm not even going to start worrying about what pedigree what OS has with regards to kernel right now...
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