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Ubuntu 24.04 Boosts Performance, Outperforming Windows 11 On The AMD Ryzen Framework 16 Laptop
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Originally posted by richardnpaul View PostI wouldn't have characterised it as bashing. They highlighted an issue that behind the scenes Framework were well aware of and already had plans in motion and progress being made on the issues at hand.
The "issue" you talk about is a UEFI security vulnerability that went unaddressed for a year-and-a-half.
If true, then this is well-deserved bashing that will hopefully spur the company to improving its software and firmware update processes and its timelines.
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Originally posted by F.Ultra View Post
most likely they are down to 100% being compiler related, this is not tests that in any meaningful way stress the scheduler and as you say the CPU bound tests (which basically is all of them) should be 100% identical since they are all doing their stuff in userspace in tight loops. Now there are ofc other things that can affect this, like Windows scheduler not liking a single cpu to go to 100% load when the others are free so it instead tosses such a process around so the load is equal on all cores at the same time leading to much increased latency and/or differences in memory management.
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Originally posted by rmfx View PostTrillions of dollars, thousands of “top engineers” for 30+ years: yet bloated perf, crappy unconventional foundations from msdos heritage, still packed with unchanged UIs from vista/xp/older.
I would feel ashamed by the result if I was them.
Don't you feel ashamed that there is no Virtualization-based Security implemented, where on Windows as you can turn it on and off with one click??? (probably on Linux it will appear as a stanard in a few years, just like MAC in the form of AppArmor or SeLinux).
For that you would be ashamed for the fact that some programs whose names you do not associate and which you do not use run slower .
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Thanks for such a comprehensive performance comparison, Michael. On the other end of hardware capability, on a dual core CPU (core m7 6y75) Dell latitude 7370, Ubuntu 24.04 feels like a hardware upgrade compared to Win 11. It is so obvious, no benchmarks necessary. So I am not surprised at all. Wine and Linux combination never looked more compelling to replace Windows.
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Originally posted by HEL88 View Post
But aren't you ashamed that Linux, after 30 years of development, still has problems with stability and GUI quality? And the threads about X11 and Wayland and their problems are a soap opera.
Don't you feel ashamed that there is no Virtualization-based Security implemented, where on Windows as you can turn it on and off with one click??? (probably on Linux it will appear as a stanard in a few years, just like MAC in the form of AppArmor or SeLinux).
For that you would be ashamed for the fact that some programs whose names you do not associate and which you do not use run slower .
Stability is amazing, dunno what you are talking about. I rarely have system crashes. Very rarely DE crashes too actually.
UIs with Linux are amazing, I use MATE and it's great. Soon, the amazing COSMIC will be available, and it will have nothing to envy to any DE/UIs.
Now we have Wayland compositors getting better and better, Pipewire that makes sound under Linux as good as MacOS, Vulkan in a great shape, Flatpaks getting standard for easier app distribution, Wine/DXVK/Proton bringing the best games on the platform better than ever...
Linux is amazing. The only thing I wish is that The Linux Foundation does a reference distribution model, to reduce fragmentation and allow an easier development target.
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With performance governor Linux would have 100% wins here. Windows evolved from DOS toy OS. It was never designed with security and performance in mind. It's not possible to rewrite it, because it will break everything. That's why they're 'patching' security with layers, but it doesn't work. When comes to Linux they're able to replace even core legacy stuff as happened many times already. Better start (POSIX not DOS) and manpower are Linux' strengths.
P.S. if Windows wasn't such monolith and had good commit history it would be in better situation, but still it evolved from DOS.
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Originally posted by HEL88 View Post
But aren't you ashamed that Linux, after 30 years of development, still has problems with stability and GUI quality? And the threads about X11 and Wayland and their problems are a soap opera.
Don't you feel ashamed that there is no Virtualization-based Security implemented, where on Windows as you can turn it on and off with one click??? (probably on Linux it will appear as a stanard in a few years, just like MAC in the form of AppArmor or SeLinux).
Microsoft March 2024 Patch Tuesday fixes 60 flaws, 18 RCE bugs
Microsoft February 2024 Patch Tuesday fixes 2 zero-days, 73 flaws
Microsoft April 2024 Patch Tuesday fixes 150 security flaws, 67 RCEs
Microsoft fixes two Windows zero-days exploited in malware attacks
It's damn funny when winboys talk about 'security'! Furthermore, there's always huge risk when updating Windows. It breaks terribly.Last edited by Volta; 19 April 2024, 04:28 AM.
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Originally posted by HEL88 View Post
But aren't you ashamed that Linux, after 30 years of development, still has problems with stability and GUI quality? And the threads about X11 and Wayland and their problems are a soap opera.
Don't you feel ashamed that there is no Virtualization-based Security implemented, where on Windows as you can turn it on and off with one click??? (probably on Linux it will appear as a stanard in a few years, just like MAC in the form of AppArmor or SeLinux).
For that you would be ashamed for the fact that some programs whose names you do not associate and which you do not use run slower .
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Originally posted by HEL88 View PostDon't you feel ashamed that there is no Virtualization-based Security implemented, where on Windows as you can turn it on and off with one click??? (probably on Linux it will appear as a stanard in a few years, just like MAC in the form of AppArmor or SeLinux).
MAC on Windows: 2007
MAC on Linux: 2000
So WTF you're talking here about?
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