Firefox Developers Still Hesitant About Using EGL Over GLX On X11 Linux

[NateHubbard]

So instead of finishing what they started, they shoud just throw it all out and start over, while we wait another few years?

We should probably just run a different browser. That seems to be what everyone else is doing.

[Mthw]

We should probably just run a different browser. That seems to be what everyone else is doing.

It looks like I want to use Firefox too much. On the other hand Chromium-vaapi runs much better.

[Guest]

Pretty much only WebKitGTK+ cares for Linux.

[theriddick]

I just run vivaldi with --no-sandbox, seems pretty good.

[nanonyme]

Maybe they should just give an EOL date for GLX forcing people to either move to EGL or have nothing

[theriddick]

Open-source doesn't really work that way,.

[shmerl]

So instead of finishing what they started, they shoud just throw it all out and start over, while we wait another few years?

WebRender is essentially throwing it all out anyway to make a new renderer from scratch, and its design aligns well with using Vulkan. It was in their plans anyway.

As far as I know, they aren't going to use Vulkan directly, but rather through gfx-rs (I'd prefer them to use Vulkano, but they have to resort to lock-in workarounds instead).

See here: https://github.com/szeged/webrender/commits/master

I don't expect Firefox to support Wayland, until switch to WebRender is complete anyway. So it will be XWayland until then.

[treba]

Michael : Stransky has send out patches to make glx/egl a run-time switch: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1460255

It should be the last remaining bug preventing the wayland build to run accelerated layers, webgl and webrender (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1438144)

[Gusar]

From what I saw when last time I tried EGL on FF: it forces GLES and uses some kind of fucked-up even-more-unmaintained codepath that works like absolute shit. It's not EGL at fault but completely broken and abandoned acceleration of FF on Linux in general.

*facepalm*

[dungeon]

Maybe they should just give an EOL date for GLX forcing people to either move to EGL or have nothing

So Wayland is 10 years old and Windows XP still supported

This is what happens when someone tries to be nice and some people does not realise how they should replace their more than 5-6 years old hardware, because that is a period where actually upstream support really exists

On the other hand, there is a different power which says "why should i drop something old which works and to replace it with something new-old if that still does not work nice"