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Originally posted by duby229 View PostInteresting. It seems Intel's new APUs with Vega are targeting a higher performance bracket than AMD's new APUs with Vega? 20-24 CUs for the Intel products and only 8-11 CUs for the AMD products. It makes sense I guess from a historical perspective, but....
How you would put that big mGPU inside CPU, it is impossible?
Basically, instead of doing this with GDDR5 mGPUs and thanks to Vega and HBM they did this design to save space
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Originally posted by fhuberts View Post
Unless they knew about it for a long time, no.
IMHO it's also very unlikely that Zen2 will include any such mitigations since AMD indicated that its design is finished.
Earliest would be Zen3, or Zen2+ if they really want to fix it.
I worked on CPUs and believe me, bringing a CPU design from concept to production is a _serious_ amount of work and takes a _lot_ of time.
This thread was quite enlightening to me.
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The deal breaker at the moment is motherboard prices. The CPUs aren't cheap but seemingly worth it... but then the TR4 motherboards cost >50% the cost of a Threadripper CPU where I live. Intel socket 2066-pin boards start at AU$369 for a ASRock X299 Gaming K6, but the cheapest TR4 board is a Asus Prime X399-A at AU$549 - and quite a bare bones motherboard honestly. No wifi, only a single M.2 port, etc. Seems way too expensive for what it is.
If AMD gets some basic TR4 boards in at around the AU$300 mark (sold locally - I'm not importing a motherboard), only then would I seriously consider upgrading. I'm assuming it'll happen over the next 6 months, and I can wait.
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Originally posted by Brisse View Post
Wasn't this obvious from the start? These AMD APU's are traditional APU's made from a single chip put inside a typical CPU sized package. The Intel+Vega product is two larger chips put on a bigger package which doesn't resemble a traditional CPU.
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Originally posted by duby229 View Post
And? That's pretty obviously why I asked the question. Duh. As posed earlier the question was why? Does AMD have a plan to release higher end APU's eventually or are they just content to let Intel have that segment?
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostInteresting. It seems Intel's new APUs with Vega are targeting a higher performance bracket than AMD's new APUs with Vega? 20-24 CUs for the Intel products and only 8-11 CUs for the AMD products. It makes sense I guess from a historical perspective, but....
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostInteresting. It seems Intel's new APUs with Vega are targeting a higher performance bracket than AMD's new APUs with Vega? 20-24 CUs for the Intel products and only 8-11 CUs for the AMD products. It makes sense I guess from a historical perspective, but....## VGA ##
AMD: X1950XTX, HD3870, HD5870
Intel: GMA45, HD3000 (Core i5 2500K)
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Originally posted by Brisse View Post
To compete with Nvidia's mid-range discrete mobile graphics obviously, which is in the interest of both AMD and Intel. Can't do that with a traditional APU, so this is their solution.
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