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  • “Science Gets A Lot Of Things Wrong”

    This latest twat purveyor of TrumpFacts™ was trying to dodge a question about scientific facts with the reply

    “You’re saying that you do, and you’re saying the scientific community knows, and I’m saying people have gotten things wrong throughout the 5,500-year history of our planet—human history, I should say.”
    Freudian slip about the Creationist age of the Earth?

    Yes, science gets a lot of things wrong. Who discovers those things are wrong, and fixes them? Why, scientists, of course.

    Science is a self-correcting process. Faith and ideology are not.

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    Science and Ideology are different indeed. Science is based on facts and most often proven by an experiment. It is not by opinion or preferences. While Ideology is based on one's belief and faith.

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    • #3
      there is a "Correction" now in the link.
      Correction: This story initially quoted Scaramucci without his correction that he meant to refer to human history rather than the age of the Earth.
      Not that I believe it for a second.. "First words out of the mouth" are usually closest to what person really is thinking.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by watchbeans View Post
        Science and Ideology are different indeed. Science is based on facts and most often proven by an experiment. It is not by opinion or preferences. While Ideology is based on one's belief and faith.
        Science acts also a religion sometimes, with an orthodoxy which doesn't accept deviant opinions.

        What do these have in common:
        Creationists: Godless atheist scientists deny the holy truth of the Bible and invent carbon dating and evolution to show that the earth is billions of years old and we evolved from apes.
        Global warming denialists: Alarmist climate scientists who cannot predict next week's weather tell us the planet is warming due to human activity, to get more research grants.
        Vaccination critics: Big pharma pocketed scientists try to make us all autists through mercury based otherwise useless vaccinations, so pharma companies can profit even more off us.
        Fat acceptance activists: Shitlord scientists funded by the dieting industry try to tell us that being overweight is unhealthy, but fat people die earlier only due to all the discrimination and fat-shaming that they receive.
        Well, these are not examples of such orthodoxy

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        • #5
          Originally posted by chithanh View Post
          Science acts also a religion sometimes, with an orthodoxy which doesn't accept deviant opinions.
          So long as you can use the principles of science itself to show why the orthodoxy is wrong, it will continue to be a self-correcting process. (Eventually...)

          In religion, that can’t be done.

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          • #6
            The Bible has the answers for man living a good and truthful life. It is Mans User Manual. You just have to understand what you read. Remember Science is based in Facts. The Bible is based in Truths. Facts change. Remember when in Columbus's time it was a fact the world was flat, or the Sun revolved around the Earth. The Truth on the other hand stands to time indefinite.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Master Rod View Post
              The Bible has the answers for man living a good and truthful life. It is Mans User Manual. You just have to understand what you read. Remember Science is based in Facts. The Bible is based in Truths. Facts change. Remember when in Columbus's time it was a fact the world was flat, or the Sun revolved around the Earth. The Truth on the other hand stands to time indefinite.
              I very well agree that " Science is based in Facts. The Bible is based in Truths." Just like what I posted a month ago that "Science and Ideology are different indeed."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Master Rod View Post
                The Bible has the answers for man living a good and truthful life. It is Mans User Manual. You just have to understand what you read.
                As far as religionists are concerned, “understand” seems to mean “pay attention to only the parts I tell you to, and ignore the rest”.

                Remember Science is based in Facts. The Bible is based in Truths. Facts change.
                Is that a fact, or is that the truth?

                Remember when in Columbus's time it was a fact the world was flat ...
                Was it really? Where did Columbus think he was going, then?

                ...or the Sun revolved around the Earth.
                Wasn’t it the Christians who persecuted a man who tried to tell them differently?
                Last edited by ldo17; 21 March 2017, 07:36 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ldo17 View Post
                  Is that a fact, or is that the truth?
                  No, no, it's the "Truth" with a capital T. See, because he capitalized it, you can't actually question him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Master Rod View Post
                    The Bible has the answers for man living a good and truthful life. It is Mans User Manual. You just have to understand what you read. Remember Science is based in Facts. The Bible is based in Truths. Facts change. Remember when in Columbus's time it was a fact the world was flat, or the Sun revolved around the Earth. The Truth on the other hand stands to time indefinite.
                    Actually, Columbus knew full well the world was round. He just didn't know there were 2 continents across the Atlantic. Basically every person studying classical literature knew the world was round.

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