The Dirty List Of GPUs With Open-Source Drivers Gone Wildly Wrong

[aht0]

I'd be interested to know if any of the failed AMD cards work better with FreeBSD 10's radeonkms.

Latest '11.2' has amdgpu driver, which should now light up those R9 cards as well. Might as well test it all the way

[Aeder]

Will this list ever get revisited in a new article?

[smitty3268]

So why doing it on his hardware then ? Not all people run Linux software on less-than-a-year hardware. The ultrabook may be very cool, but I'm not a rich guy that can afford change my hardware each year. Doing the same tests (multiple kernels with power monitoring) on an older hardware makes sense.

Hardware support for older machines was already mentionned as becoming sometimes problematic. It IS interesting to see the kernel comparison then.

I'm not saying whether it's interesting or not. That's a personal opinion. What i'm saying is that it's useless to you if you are trying to figure out what will happen on your machine. The only way to see that is to do it yourself and find out.

Laptops all have pretty specialized hardware, a comparison with more standard desktop hardware would be a lot more comparable.

[Morpheus]

So why doing it on his hardware then ? Not all people run Linux software on less-than-a-year hardware. The ultrabook may be very cool, but I'm not a rich guy that can afford change my hardware each year. Doing the same tests (multiple kernels with power monitoring) on an older hardware makes sense.

Hardware support for older machines was already mentionned as becoming sometimes problematic. It IS interesting to see the kernel comparison then.

[smitty3268]

When I ask Michael on Twitter about testing older hardware when comparing kernel releases (regarding power consuption), he responds that it's not interesting. I have a six years old laptop, I'm not sufficiently skilled to run the tests myself, but I want to know if newer kernel can help gain battery life. I'm not interesting, according to Michael. But I can't afford buy a 1000€+ laptop with top-notch components.

Power usage will depend heavily on what drivers you are using - what hardware your laptop has. I doubt any comparison michael did would mean much anyway, since it would be completely different hardware from what you are running.

[Morpheus]

When I ask Michael on Twitter about testing older hardware when comparing kernel releases (regarding power consuption), he responds that it's not interesting. I have a six years old laptop, I'm not sufficiently skilled to run the tests myself, but I want to know if newer kernel can help gain battery life. I'm not interesting, according to Michael. But I can't afford buy a 1000?+ laptop with top-notch components.

[stqn]

2005 called. They want their hardware back.

My father?s PC*contains a Radeon 9200 SE from 2004, and it is working fine (under Xubuntu 12.04 with a 1680?1050 screen). It can be useful to have recent information about old hardware (for example I?m trying to compare an Athlon 64 3000+ to recent processors, and it?s almost impossible to find any comparison).

[agd5f]

The firmware should fix it, but AFAIK, even with current kernel Git the R7 260X re-clocking support is still disabled by default.

It's enabled by default when the new firmware is loaded.

[chrisb]

You forgot to link to the detailed bug reports you filed upstream on each of the issues you found.

Bryce, serious question.. one of the most common (several times a day) installation failures reported on AskUbuntu.com is basically "I tried to install 14.04 but at boot graphics fail/hangs" - the majority of these reports appear to be failures in radeon or nouveau - is there any point in reporting these on Launchpad? The obvious answer might be "yes" but I wonder if a) upstream is too far ahead of 14.04 for reports to be relevant, and b) whether "fails on radeon HDx (or nvidia x)" alone is sufficient information to help? Or is there anything else that you could do to get useful information from these reports (I guess most users would be happy to download and boot a test diagnostics iso for you, if you made one available).

[blackiwid]

You can much pretty say that archlinux is the distro that is guiding how others distros make things up. Arch was one of the first distros that started using systemd, and for now it has proven pretty stable, so thats why other distros are adopting it.

Fedora:

24 Jul 2010
From: Lennart Poettering <mzerqung-AT-0pointer.de>

Heya,

I have just uploaded a new systemd and a new upstart package which make
systemd the default init system for Rawhide.

http://lwn.net/Articles/397383/

Archlinux:

2012-10-13 - Thomas B?chler

The base group now contains the systemd-sysvcompat package. This means that all new installations will boot with systemd by default.

So how sets the trends and others run behind it? No biggy just wanted to clearify a false statement.

and more important the 2 original authors that are still developing on it, are paid redhat employes.

AUTHOR:
Lennart Poettering
Kay Sievers
...and many others