Plymouth Gets Tighter Integration With GDM, X

[DoDoENT]

This argument is completely inane.

The work is in regards to plymouth and GDM. This has NOTHING TO DO with your DE (Gnome, KDE, etc.) GDM is *INDEPENDENT* of gnome DE and is roughly equivalent to KDM no matter how you look at it.

In other words, keep using KDE if you like. You can just as easily run GDM/KDE. IT WORKS.

Nobody is shutting out KDE.

I know. But GDM seems less configurable to me. But maybe I'm just a noob...

[droidhacker]

This argument is completely inane.

The work is in regards to plymouth and GDM. This has NOTHING TO DO with your DE (Gnome, KDE, etc.) GDM is *INDEPENDENT* of gnome DE and is roughly equivalent to KDM no matter how you look at it.

In other words, keep using KDE if you like. You can just as easily run GDM/KDE. IT WORKS.

Nobody is shutting out KDE.

[BlackStar]

you still have to understand how flamewars work. It is NOT about arguments or logic

I stand corrected...

Gnome people aren't better. Believe or not, but some people say there's such gnomocentrizm, because of some political reasons.

...and I think I know *exactly* what we need.

[madman2k]

Guys, are you really sure a discussion on the relative superiority of qt3, qt4 and gtk apps belongs to a Plymouth-related thread? (Not to mention the inanity of the notion that the windowing toolkit has something to do with the superiority or inferiority of an application).

you still have to understand how flamewars work. It is NOT about arguments or logic

[kraftman]

Guys, are you really sure a discussion on the relative superiority of qt3, qt4 and gtk apps belongs to a Plymouth-related thread?

No, but sometimes it is better to correct some things.

(Not to mention the inanity of the notion that the windowing toolkit has something to do with the superiority or inferiority of an application).

There are some nice tools to make feature rich UI on QT side

[kraftman]

In all seriousness, improvements in the Gnome stack do not endanger the KDE ecosystem (or vice versa). Not to mention that Fedora's raison d'?tre is to develop and test bleeding-edge code - if this patch proves beneficial it will be adopted upstream and implemented by all affected parties (including KDM). There's nothing nefarious, there's no big conspiracy to lock KDE out of anything ("all I hear these days is Gnome" types of comments). This plain, honest, open-source software development.

Gnome people aren't better. Believe or not, but some people say there's such gnomocentrizm, because of some political reasons.

[BlackStar]

Guys, are you really sure a discussion on the relative superiority of qt3, qt4 and gtk apps belongs to a Plymouth-related thread? (Not to mention the inanity of the notion that the windowing toolkit has something to do with the superiority or inferiority of an application).

[DoDoENT]

Actually, qt apps are superior to gtk apps. To name just few: Amarok, Kate, Ktorrent, Akregator, SMPlayer...

As a KDE user I can only say that this is true only if you count _only_ Qt3 applications. They are superior to gtk applications, but most of qt4 applications aren't mature yet (e.g. Amarok2, KOffice2, KBluetooth4, ...)

[BlackStar]

Yet again you see KDE users complaining in gnome topic, you do not see the other way around so that has to mean something, or do you really think that all the trolls live just on the K front ?

No, but the force is certainly strong on the K front. :P

It just means KDE users have some good reasons to complain that's all.

If that was true, you'd see KDE developers complain - not users. This is not the case, which means this is plain old trolling by angsty KDE users worrying about their DE's sexual orientation (tm).

In all seriousness, improvements in the Gnome stack do not endanger the KDE ecosystem (or vice versa). Not to mention that Fedora's raison d'?tre is to develop and test bleeding-edge code - if this patch proves beneficial it will be adopted upstream and implemented by all affected parties (including KDM). There's nothing nefarious, there's no big conspiracy to lock KDE out of anything ("all I hear these days is Gnome" types of comments). This plain, honest, open-source software development.

And I simply cannot understand all this animosity emanating from KDE users. Every single DE-related topic here is littered, flamed and finally derailed by angry KDE users trolling about Win98 wannabies, Microsoft sell-outs, Gnome conspiracies, Hitler, Nazis and the end of the world.

Come on guys, give it a rest. Your DE rocks, it's the bestest, seriously. Now can we all live together in peace, without flames on every single Gnome-related topic? (Pretty sure world peace is just round the corner once we can do that).

Edit: spelling.

[kraftman]

Nothing wrong with GNOME. All they need to do is fix their damn panels and menu. As is, KDE is a far better desktop, though gtk apps. are for the most part superior to qt ones.

Actually, qt apps are superior to gtk apps. To name just few: Amarok, Kate, Ktorrent, Akregator, SMPlayer...